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Another opening problem More from the Spring Fours

#1 User is offline   paulg 

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Posted 2007-May-09, 10:48

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mickyb has already posted some distributional hands from the Spring Fours. Here is another opening bid problem from Round 6 (or the quarter-finals of the plate competition in our case).

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Posted 2007-May-09, 10:52

Hi,

First, what I wont do: I wont open 1S, and I
wont pass. The later may be best, but I wont
do it.
That leaves a preempt, and I would go with
2S.

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Posted 2007-May-09, 10:53

2S or 3S... wtp?
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Posted 2007-May-09, 10:57

2. I can't remember ever opening a weak two on a seven-card suit before, but this looks like it might be the hand.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 10:58

SoTired, on May 9 2007, 11:53 AM, said:

2S or 3S... wtp?

How can you say wtp when you don't even choose a bid lol.

I would pass for sure. Bad suit, tons of defense, Qxx of the other major, it has everything a preempt shouldn't.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 10:59

SoTired, on May 9 2007, 05:53 PM, said:

2S or 3S... wtp?

Is this not the definition of a problem :rolleyes:
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Posted 2007-May-09, 11:06

2 for me too, I've opened the odd weak two on defensive hands with a 7 card suit and it has worked well.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 11:09

Pass.
I can live with 2S, anything else is sick.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 11:49

Pass.. you don't have to bid every hand.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 11:58

jdonn, on May 9 2007, 11:58 AM, said:

SoTired, on May 9 2007, 11:53 AM, said:

2S or 3S... wtp?

How can you say wtp when you don't even choose a bid lol.

I would pass for sure. Bad suit, tons of defense, Qxx of the other major, it has everything a preempt shouldn't.

since I am vul, i would downgrade the weak 7 carder to a 6 carder and open 2S. I was just being cute thinking about all the passers out there. But change swap out a Q for a small spade QJxxxxx Qxx Ax x and I open 3S
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Posted 2007-May-09, 12:22

inquiry, on May 9 2007, 12:49 PM, said:

Pass.. you don't have to bid every hand.

Huh.

I'd open 2 myself, but if I had an agreement with partner that kept me from opening 2, I'd open 1 rather than pass.

Points schmoints. I have a 27 ZAR count (enough to open even without the Q), a great Losing Trick Count, good defense, great offense, and nice rebids. Those two 10s aren't chopped liver either. I don't think partner will be disappointed with my hand. I'm also concerned that I'm going to have a heck of a time if I start out with a pass convincing partner I have this kind of hand, especially if he opens a heart.

But then, maybe that's why I'm not an expert. :)
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Posted 2007-May-09, 12:28

3 for me, I don't think of this ones too much.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 12:58

I have too much defense for a pree. I think I'm going with a very uncharacteristic pass :) aaaaha, screw it. 1 .. lol
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Posted 2007-May-09, 13:13

this one ill pass.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 13:18

Just pass. This hand is neither fish nor fowl.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 14:41

I'm getting better but I doubt that I could pass here - 3
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Posted 2007-May-09, 14:43

2S, I understand pass, but it's not my style.

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Posted 2007-May-09, 15:04

This is not a good hand to preempt on vul. It has numerous disadvantages.

For one thing, you are not particularily interested in suggesting a sacrafice. For another, vul preempts should be constructive as well as preemptive bids. By this, I mean your partner can count on a high Offensive to Defensive ratio. Here your hand is upside down, other than long spades, you have high defensive and low offensive values. Your partner is surely going to go wrong if he is trying to decide between bidding on or defending if he relies on the opposite nature of your hand than what you hold. And, should you be so inclined. The odds are good you will get a chance to bid again in the auction and now you will not be too misleading, to pass then bid suggest higher defensive and lower offensive values. Of course, I would not bid too much should I decide to enter the auction later.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 15:37

I'd open 1 or jump overcall opponents


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Posted 2007-May-09, 17:17

I pass, I can always come in later with a fit showing non-jump.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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