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Reverse by responder valid after intervention? sayc bidding.

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Posted 2005-March-24, 01:15

Matchpoints, none vul.

You are dealer and hold: Qxx, Ax, Jxx, AKxxx

You open 1D, LHO passes, partner bids 1H, RHO passes, you bid 1NT, LHO comes in with 2C and partner bids 2S.

Is 2S by partner game forcing? Assume a pickup partner.
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Posted 2005-March-24, 01:30

SAYC and I open 1D..Please fire teacher.
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Posted 2005-March-24, 01:32

mike777, on Mar 24 2005, 02:30 AM, said:

SAYC and I open 1D..Please fire teacher.



Oops sorry. Interchanged diamonds and clubs.
Hand: Qxx, Ax, AKxxx, Jxx
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Posted 2005-March-24, 03:00

It would be if you play Checkback and the auction was unopposed. Not so sure after intervention, but it looks forcing for 1 round anyway.
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Posted 2005-April-04, 07:18

Hi,

not game forcing, but forcing for one round,
i.e. at least inv. values, asking for 3card
support in hearts.

Bid 3C, asking for stopper in Clubs,
which should show maxmal values for my
bidding, intending to pass 3D, 3H, 3S and 3NT
from partner partner.

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Posted 2005-April-04, 07:43

One round force for me, 10+. Responder is allowed to pass a rebid he doesn't like. I have a super max, so I will co-operate with 3♣, denying 3 hearts and a club stopper. If my 1NT could be with or without 4 spades, 3♣ also denies 4 spades.

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Posted 2005-April-04, 17:06

1 round force.
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Posted 2005-April-05, 21:14

another vote for "forcing one round"
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Posted 2005-April-06, 10:38

Would a 3C bid be game forcing then? I think 3C should be game forcing... What about a double? should that show spades but not a forcing hand, as 2S already is forcing one round (I think that should be the case if 1NT denies 4 spades). This is matchpoints and 2S might easily be a good spot...

Sorry if the question seems too basic.

Thanks for the responses.
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Posted 2005-April-06, 11:09

Essentially, once you rebid 1NT, the most partner can achieve, short of bidding game, is a 1-round force. After 1♦-(P)-1♥-(P)-1NT-(2♣)- I would take 3♣ as looking for a club stopper for NT and would bid 3♦. It's difficult to force the auction for long after a NT rebid so as responder you need to be aware of that and determine the final contract asap.
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Posted 2005-April-06, 11:26

Trumpace, on Apr 6 2005, 11:38 AM, said:

What about a double?

Good question, definitely not basic. I think one could play X as either

A ) penalty
B ) cards with no clear direction (optional)
C ) takeout

I really dont like C. Usually you can find another bid with a t/o X shape but just a minimum hand (like 4531 bidding 2H).

A and B both have alot of merit. I don't know what "expert standard" would be but I think A is slightly better in this auction.
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