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- - - 1NT
3♠ 4♥ 4♠ 5♥
Pass Pass 5♠ Dbl
Pass Pass Pass
I never thought this hand would cost us so dearly, can someone expalin why please
-1 12.2 imps
it was played in a ABCL tourney 5pm hand 7
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why did I lose so many imps answers please :(
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Posted 2005-April-03, 16:28
West North East South
- - - 1NT
3♠ 4♥ 4♠ 5♥
Pass Pass 5♠ Dbl
Pass Pass Pass
I never thought this hand would cost us so dearly, can someone expalin why please
-1 12.2 imps
it was played in a ABCL tourney 5pm hand 7
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Posted 2005-April-03, 16:35
maybe a lot of other n/s pairs got to 5 or even 6H, maybe some even doubled, when even 4H is off by one trick
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Posted 2005-April-03, 16:42
Maybe I am silly today, but on the lie of the cards I have the very strong suspicion that you can make 11 tricks in spades by playing twice towards ♦J (playing for the 1NT opener to hold ♦KQ, and for spades 2-1), or even 12 tricks by establishing clubs (playing for ♣ 3-3)... That would explain why people in 4♠, 5♠ and 6 ♠ might all have made their contracts 
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Posted 2005-April-03, 16:49
which way were you sitting? If you were east west it was because you were cold for 6S and went down in 5...
If you were NS i guess the field was REALLY bad and defending 4H making?
If you were NS i guess the field was REALLY bad and defending 4H making?
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Posted 2005-April-03, 16:59
Jlall, on Apr 3 2005, 04:49 PM, said:
If you were east west it was because you were cold for 6S and went down in 5...
yes, there is that too heheh
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Posted 2005-April-03, 17:26
How did you go off? E-W are cold for 12 tricks. Nth Sth can't make 4H.
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Posted 2005-April-03, 17:35
You can look at the travellers by viewing hand records at:
http://online.bridge...-bin/history.pl
On this particular board, most of the field is in 4♠ or 5♠, both contracts making. Others have pointed out the various ways to make five spades.
http://online.bridge...-bin/history.pl
On this particular board, most of the field is in 4♠ or 5♠, both contracts making. Others have pointed out the various ways to make five spades.
Adam W. Meyerson
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Posted 2005-April-03, 21:58
You were West and went down in 5♠X on a trump lead. There are several ways to make 5♠ and one to score an overtrick. That is the reason for your poor result.
Five scored 850, three 1050 for +3.42 and +7.31, and then there were other big EW scores for doubled spade contracts making with or without overtrick(s).
You won dummy's ♠A, led the queen and overtook with the king. This was the point of no return. After ♠Q winning, you can play on diamonds for 11 tricks. After trick 1 you can play on clubs and make 12 tricks, provided that you saved the precious ♠2.
♠A (7 from hand)
♣A
Club ruff (higher than the deuce)
High spade to the queen
Club ruff (higher than the deuce)
♠2 to dummy's 4
12 tricks (7 spades, 1 diamond and 4 clubs).
Saving ♠2 is standard technique for experts. Don't despair if you don't find that play at the table. The lesson to learn is that you can't come to 11 tricks if you overtake the queen of spades (unless someone has the doubleton ♦KQ). There is absolutely no hope when you cash a 3rd trump.
If you decide to play on diamonds you must do it from dummy at trick 2 or 3.
Roland
Five scored 850, three 1050 for +3.42 and +7.31, and then there were other big EW scores for doubled spade contracts making with or without overtrick(s).
You won dummy's ♠A, led the queen and overtook with the king. This was the point of no return. After ♠Q winning, you can play on diamonds for 11 tricks. After trick 1 you can play on clubs and make 12 tricks, provided that you saved the precious ♠2.
♠A (7 from hand)
♣A
Club ruff (higher than the deuce)
High spade to the queen
Club ruff (higher than the deuce)
♠2 to dummy's 4
12 tricks (7 spades, 1 diamond and 4 clubs).
Saving ♠2 is standard technique for experts. Don't despair if you don't find that play at the table. The lesson to learn is that you can't come to 11 tricks if you overtake the queen of spades (unless someone has the doubleton ♦KQ). There is absolutely no hope when you cash a 3rd trump.
If you decide to play on diamonds you must do it from dummy at trick 2 or 3.
Roland
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Posted 2005-April-03, 23:21
Given the bidding the 1N opener is a big favorite to have the KQ of diamonds, so i think that is a better line than playing for 3-3 clubs (plus some small extra chances).
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