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Posted 2012-April-01, 18:33

Suggestions on how to bid these:

W deals, EW silent throughout, vul none



W deals and opens 2 weak, E bids 3 if able, vul NS


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Posted 2012-April-01, 18:44

The first hand doesnt seem too hard:

2C-2d/2S depending on agreement
4D - suit setting

and south basically just has a key card bid and then on to grand slam.

The second one I am in two minds about. North could easily just bid 2N and get a raise to 3N imo, but north could also dble and bid diamonds showing a strong flexible hand. If you take the latter route there is a chance that you will find slam after an auction like:

2h x 3h 4c
p 4d p 4h

where 4H shows a good hand in context for diamonds. North can now visualise the short hearts plus club tricks and you should probably get there. But like I say, north could easily just bid 2N, especially at MP.
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Posted 2012-April-01, 19:45

First one:
2C - 2D! ( waiting, but positive )
4D - 5NT
7D
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Posted 2012-April-02, 02:55

The first one was interesting.

I'm not sure what S envisions N having for his "suit setting" bid. It's fine when he has Jx, but what if he has x or void ? Also what does N envision S holding ? Is AK10xxxxx sufficient to show Q ?

Our auction was 2-2-3-3-4-5N(GSF)-7

A jump to 4 would have shown a solid suit, so partner was aware my suit was not solid, but was very long.

Our system is that I would have bid 6N with a KQ headed suit so we're not in the grand opposite that. The only danger is that he might have found us in a grand opposite AQ10xxxxx which is no disaster.

The second board we played 5, I think opps played the superior 5 after not getting the pretty fruity weak 2, but the board was flat as the clubs behaved. We'd be in 6 pretty comfortably without the interference.
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Posted 2012-April-02, 08:31

View PostCyberyeti, on 2012-April-02, 02:55, said:

The first one was interesting.

I'm not sure what S envisions N having for his "suit setting" bid. It's fine when he has Jx, but what if he has x or void ? Also what does N envision S holding ? Is AK10xxxxx sufficient to show Q ?

Our auction was 2-2-3-3-4-5N(GSF)-7

A jump to 4 would have shown a solid suit, so partner was aware my suit was not solid, but was very long.



I don't think a suit setting bid carries the implication that our suit is (totally) solid, just that we definitely want to play in that suit. After a 2d bid I think 4d is completely normal, after a 2s response, then you might want to go low as partner can have AQxxxx(x) or similar, and it might be right to play in spades. The problem with reserving these bids for solid suits is that if can make it much more difficult for a cue bidding auction to start when you are dealt "only" AQJ to nine for your suit, and really just care about the other suits, as here.
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