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What is your bid?

Poll: What is your bid? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your bid?

  1. pass (9 votes [37.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  2. 2 clubs (13 votes [54.17%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 54.17%

  3. 2NT (1 votes [4.17%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

  4. other (1 votes [4.17%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

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#1 User is offline   xx1943 

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Posted 2011-September-29, 00:49



You and your partner agreed to play 12-14 NT.
1NT shows 6-9(10) HCP and denies a 4-card-major.
Is the hand worth another bid? Or do you prefer to pass.

Is there any difference in your answer, if you play 15-17 NT?

Thanks for your answers

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Posted 2011-September-29, 08:17

At MP I would pass and tough out 1NT at IMPS I would try for our sure 8+ card minor fit with 2♣
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Posted 2011-September-29, 11:58

Pass and no.
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Posted 2011-September-29, 13:03

2♣.

The fact they have heart length and aces means that NT will play very badly for us compared to a minor suit contract. This has all the signs of being a hand where the minor suit will play two tricks better.
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Posted 2011-September-29, 13:07

Partner has at most 3-3 in the majors and therefore must have a four-card minor. So, we have a minor fit, and the opponents have a 9-card heart fit.

That said, bad things can happen if you bid. If partner has a minimum, he will pass 2♣ or bid 2♦, in which case the opponents will often find their heart fit. Of course, then you can rebid 2♠ and maybe find the 4-3 spade "fit" for a decent score, as well, except that the spade ruffs are coming on the wrong side. So, you may end up in 3♣ or 3♦ in the end. That migt not be the end of the world, though.

Plus, partner might have a five-card club suit, which seems nice.

IMO, all things considered, 2♣ feels right.
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Posted 2011-September-29, 13:51

Even if partner should turn up with 10 HCP, I'm not sure we want to be in a game, and it's unlikely to be worth looking for anyway.

If our NT range were 15-17, I would have opened 1NT.
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Posted 2011-September-29, 22:35

View Postnigel_k, on 2011-September-29, 13:03, said:

2♣.

The fact they have heart length and aces means that NT will play very badly for us compared to a minor suit contract. This has all the signs of being a hand where the minor suit will play two tricks better.


That's it. This was the complete hand:

1NT is down 1 at least (losing 5♥ and 2 Aces) while you can make 3-4♦.

So even in MPs 2♣ is the better bid (imho).

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Posted 2011-September-29, 23:00

View Postxx1943, on 2011-September-29, 22:35, said:

That's it. This was the complete hand:

1NT is down 1 at least (losing 5♥ and 2 Aces) while you can make 3-4♦.

So even in MPs 2♣ is the better bid (imho).

Sincerely Al



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Posted 2011-October-01, 16:01

1NT at MPs for sure.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-October-01, 19:55

Looks like an obvious 2c bid to me. Pd has denied a 4 card Major. I am not bidding 2c as a gt, but to find the best contract as we have a known minor suit fit.
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Posted 2011-October-04, 01:05

Hi,

It is either pass or 2C.

If you bid 2C now, you reopen the bidding, and they may be able to
locate their 9 card heart fit, the 2C bid made it easier for them.
If you pass, East has to bid, or they dont locate their heart fit.

For me, I would say, this is a mood point.

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Posted 2011-October-06, 02:30

Any scoring - 2♣ and no, although in MP i would consider opening 1NT for 15-17 range.Posted Image
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