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Raise on 3?

Poll: Raise on 3? (28 member(s) have cast votes)

Your rebid?

  1. 2D (18 votes [64.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 64.29%

  2. 2H (10 votes [35.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.71%

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#1 User is offline   mtvesuvius 

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Posted 2010-December-20, 22:32

What is your rebid (and why?)
2/1, standard bridge, you have methods to distinguish between 3 and 4 card raises

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Posted 2010-December-20, 22:34

2d will rebid my very good 6 card suit.

If we have game pard can rebid.

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will raise with 3h when I dont have another good option.
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Posted 2010-December-20, 22:52

2D is automatic to me
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Posted 2010-December-21, 00:44

2D, since I am showing my 6 card suit.

I dont mind 2H, but since I am able to show my 6th diamonds,
I will do this.

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Posted 2010-December-21, 02:13

at MPs I would be tempted to bid 2H lest partner plans to pass next round, and if not, showing my support will be of use.
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Posted 2010-December-21, 04:44

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2010-December-20, 22:32, said:

What is your rebid (and why?)2/1, standard bridge, you have methods to distinguish between 3 and 4 card raises
IMO 3 (if NF but invitational, showing good and 3) = 10, 2 = 9, 2 = 8.
In our experience, this natural jump rebid is frequent and effective.
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Posted 2010-December-21, 07:21

2 for me. (I only support on a 3c if I don't have another good rebid)

View Postnige1, on 2010-December-21, 04:44, said:

IMO 3 (if NF but invitational, showing good and 3) = 10, 2 = 9, 2 = 8.
In our experience, this natural jump rebid is frequent and effective.
Is it an agreement you have with your regular partner(s) that 1m-1M-3m = 6cm & 3cM? What do you rebid when you have the normal 3m hand: with a good hand and 6cm and no 6cM?
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Posted 2010-December-21, 07:41

View Postkgr, on 2010-December-21, 07:21, said:

2 for me. (I only support on a 3c if I don't have another good rebid)
Is it an agreement you have with your regular partner(s) that 1m-1M-3m = 6cm & 3cM? What do you rebid when you have the normal 3m hand: with a good hand and 6cm and no 6cM?
Yes that is our agreement. 3m jump rebid shows 6m & 3M support.
With a normal misfit 3m rebid, you could manufacture a second suit. For us, however, a 2N jump rebid shows the normal misfit 3m hand (because we open something else with 18-19 flat).
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Posted 2010-December-21, 08:08

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2010-December-20, 22:32, said:

What is your rebid (and why?)
2/1, standard bridge, you have methods to distinguish between 3 and 4 card raises



Even I'd rebid 2 on this one

Change the hand slightly to

J65
A98
AQT983
Q

and the problem becomes a bit more interesting

(Here I might very well raise hearts)
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Posted 2010-December-21, 08:23

2 obv
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Posted 2010-December-21, 08:35

AQ109, enough said.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2010-December-21, 10:31

I should not be allowed to vote on anything at this hour of the morning. Intended to click 2, and missed.
I usually err on the side of raising p with three card support, mainly driven by the reasoning that p plays them better than I do, but with this diamond suit even I might manage to come close to making a 2 level contract.
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Posted 2010-December-21, 10:53

View Postmatmat, on 2010-December-21, 10:31, said:

mainly driven by the reasoning that p plays them better than I do


lol

Other reasons to bid 2 are state of the match when you want to swing or in a speedball when a trip to the fridge is in order.

2 is my choice, especially when under time pressure as I tend to concede the rest faster. Amazing how often that gets rejected.

I didn't vote cause the technical reasons are secondary to me.
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Posted 2010-December-22, 20:59

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2010-December-20, 22:32, said:

What is your rebid (and why?)
2/1, standard bridge, you have methods to distinguish between 3 and 4 card raises



I would bid 2D to show my good six card diamond suit.
2D may not be the best contract if partner has a weak hand and five hearts.
However, slam pays a bonus so if partner has a stronger hand that can move on it is important to describe the best feature in your hand so partner can visualize six diamond tricks when he holds something useful in the suit. Also, avoiding bidding 2H doesn't raise partner's expectations on your heart support.

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Posted 2010-December-23, 10:01

Interesting how bidding theory has changed over the last 20 years. If you gave this problem to a good player in 1990, anything but 2 would be considered lunacy. The fringe would be opening 2 or perhaps passing.

It's still a 2 call, but move around some honors and I'd raise hearts.
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Posted 2010-December-23, 13:06

2. I nearly always prefer to raise with a shortage. Maybe I would rebid 2 if it was AJx xxx KQJxxx Q.
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Posted 2010-December-23, 17:00

What is the rush to raise partner if he can't act over a 2 rebid where do you think you were going.
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Posted 2010-December-24, 08:27

View PostPhil, on 2010-December-23, 10:01, said:

Interesting how bidding theory has changed over the last 20 years. If you gave this problem to a good player in 1990, anything but 2 would be considered lunacy.


I agree that the changes are interesting, but I don't understand how this hand illustrates that, since it is still pretty much considered lunacy to bid anything other than 2D on this hand heh.
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