[MickyB]

What are people playing here, when an opponent preempts and partner overcalls 3NT?

I get the impression that the majority method is 4♣ range enquiry, 4♦ flint - in which case, how do you continue over the range enquiry - for example, what does this show?

(3♦) 3NT (Pass) 4♣
(Pass)4♦ (Pass) 4♥?

[bluecalm]

4♣ = puppet to 4♦ to signoff or bal invite
4♦/4♥ = transfers to ♥/♠ slam invites
4♠/4NT = tranfers to ♣/♦ at least mild slam invites

transfer to opponent suit is shortness and 2suiter (at least 5-4).

Idea take from Ambra. I have no idea if that's good or not but looks cool

[whereagles]

I was playing something like this

3m 3NT pass ??

4♣ = majors
4♦/♥ = transfer
4♠ = strong 4441


3M 3NT pass ??

4♣ = transfer
4♦ = transfer if M = spades, 2 suiter ♠-♣ if M = hearts
4♥ = transfer if M = hearts, 2 suiter ♥-m (NF)
4♠ = strong 4441

Same thing if its

3x pass pass 3NT

[peachy]

I play systems on. 4C=Stayman etc. 5C=aceasking.
Most of the time 3NT is passed, for obvious reasons.
Never heard or seen range ask or flint.

[kfay]

Yeah I play what you kinda describe, Mike.

4♥, 4♠, 5♣ and 5♦ are all natural slam invites.

4♦ is a relay to 4♥ to sign off somewhere.

4♣ is a range ask. Over this we're really not sure what's best, but we play:

4♦=16-17, 4♥=18-19, 4♠=20-21, 4NT = I have a long suit worth probably 7+ tricks and some stuff on the outside.


Edit:

Oh yeah, after 4♣-4♦, we play everything is just to play.

[gnasher]

MickyB, on Jul 21 2010, 04:00 PM, said:

What are people playing here, when an opponent preempts and partner overcalls 3NT?

I get the impression that the majority method is 4♣ range enquiry, 4♦ flint

That might be played by the majority in England, but perhaps not elsewhere.

I've never discussed continuations after 4♣-4♦ with anyone, and so far it's never mattered. The only times I can remember its happening, advancer has continued with some number of notrumps.

[junyi_zhu]

MickyB, on Jul 21 2010, 03:00 PM, said:

What are people playing here, when an opponent preempts and partner overcalls 3NT?

I get the impression that the majority method is 4♣ range enquiry, 4♦ flint - in which case, how do you continue over the range enquiry - for example, what does this show?

(3♦) 3NT (Pass) 4♣
(Pass)4♦ (Pass) 4♥?

I think 4C should be an asking bid. 3NT's range is very very wide(about 15 to 23 HCP, sometimes good 14). So really, you want the opener to tell you more if you think 4NT is very safe. For example, when you hold 14 to 15, you may only make 4NT or you may sometimes make 7NT facing a 3NT overcaller.

[dake50]

What structure for other bids?
What would immediate X,3M,4M,4D,4C show?
What is left in 3N?
What does X, then 3N mean? Control: D:Ax when 3N: D:QJx --no control? Some other distinguish?

[the hog]

(3X) 3NT (P) 4C = On what was your 3NT based?
Now 4D/H/S = long running suit and a stopper, 4NT = strong bal hand
Cue of opps pre empt suit = long running suit in Cs.

4D over 3NT = forces 4H in order to sign off somewhere.

[gnasher]

If you're going to play Flint, after a 3♥ opening 4♥ should be the Flint bid. That would allow a natural 4♦ advance.

The hand that provoked this thought was KJx - K108742 QJ72 - somebody asked me what I'd bid after (3♥) 3NT (pass), and I realised that I didn't actually have any way to make a forcing bid in diamonds.

[JLOGIC]

Guess I'll ask...what's Flint?

[gnasher]

JLOGIC, on Jul 22 2010, 06:34 PM, said:

Guess I'll ask...what's Flint?

4♦ forces 4♥, as a signoff in one of the majors (or some other hands, if you ever get around to discussing that). So far as I know this name is used only in the UK, so maybe Mike and I were being a bit parochial in using it and expecting everyone to understand.

It's so called because of the related convention 2NT-3♦, showing a signoff in a major at the three level. That was quite a popular method in the UK in the 1980s, before transfers became the norm.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2010-July-22, 12:30

[Ant590]

See

http://forums.bridge...showtopic=14166

and

http://forums.bridge...showtopic=32153

and

http://forums.bridge...showtopic=14161

for a couple of `(3x) - 3NT- (P) - ?' threads