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Posted 2008-December-21, 10:07

All Vul at teams:

3♥-4♦-?

You hold

♠KQxx
♥A
♦KTx
♣AKxxx.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 10:11

Double, it's safer (and might be more profitable).
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Posted 2008-December-21, 10:11

Double. (Unless it is something fancy.)

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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:

- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.

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Posted 2008-December-21, 10:52

Double.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-December-21, 14:04

Drop the axe.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 20:18

This problem seems like a non problem, indeed 7 of 8 people doubled at a party last night, a seemingly normal action, but a costly one. +200 against 620.

Is this result that surprising? We would all have bid 4♥ had partner passed. Sure this is a likely plus, but is it enough to forego the likely game we have?

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Posted 2008-December-21, 21:09

I can easily imagine ten tricks in 4♥.

I can't be sure what tricks I am taking against 4♦.

This suggests bidding 4♥ to me. Certainly against anyone decent who was happy to bid 4♦ I would be bidding 4♥. Against a weaker player double might be more attractive but sometimes they have their bid too.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 22:09

Cascade, on Dec 21 2008, 10:09 PM, said:

I can't be sure what tricks I am taking against 4♦.

What does this mean and why does it suggest bidding 4H? I think it is very rare to know exactly which tricks you are going to take. On this hand you will probably take at least one trick in each suit, there is a good chance that you can take two club tricks and if partner has short clubs then you might take quite a few more.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-December-22, 02:09

I guess that partner is more likely to have short diamonds and rho has the short clubs, so I agree with Wayne that it is far from clear where to get our tricks from.

I had doubled without a second thought, but now I think that 4 Heart is right when you are facing a sane partner.
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Posted 2008-December-22, 02:30

I prefer double, less than 500 would be quite unlucky and it could easily be more. Partner made them guess and they have guessed wrong so I intend for them to pay dearly for it.
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Posted 2008-December-22, 02:48

double, make them pay.
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Posted 2008-December-22, 03:26

double, BLOOD!
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Posted 2008-December-22, 04:43

Dbl, unless I can rely on RHO to have some sort of an 8-4 freak.
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Posted 2008-December-22, 06:33

Which nine tricks did they make?
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Posted 2008-December-22, 11:09

Double! If they can get away with getting into this auction, they can get away with almost anything! (On BBO, I X and alert it as "KILL!") I can also picture foul splits and Diamond ruffs in 4♥. They are guessing, and now they must pay...


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Posted 2008-December-22, 16:02

Which nine tricks did they make?



I wasn't there, but as I understand it, they take Ace of spades, king of hearts, 6 diamonds, and you are ended into giving them one in the black suits..

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