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Balance Over weak two?

Poll: What do you bid? (29 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid?

  1. Pass (8 votes [27.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.59%

  2. Double (8 votes [27.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.59%

  3. 2NT (13 votes [44.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.83%

  4. 3D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 3S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 3NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. 4D leaping michaels (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is online   awm 

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Posted 2008-February-13, 00:28

Scoring: IMP


LHO opens 2♠ and this is passed to you. It's IMPs, red vs. white. You're not playing equal level correction doubles.

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Posted 2008-February-13, 00:32

I really don't know what is right, but the chances for game seem to be too great to pass this and would double. I would be more likely to pass at MPs and/or white vs red.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 00:33

I'd bid 2N I guess, good problem.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 00:38

I'll try an offshape 2NT.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 01:35

Jlall, on Feb 13 2008, 07:33 PM, said:

... good problem.

I guess this is equivalent to nasty hand.

You have too much to pass but I have no idea what is best. When considering an opening bid we have the philosophy of bidding NTs as often as possible on hands that are balanced or nearly balanced and will be hard to bid so maybe Justin's suggestion of 2NT is best.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 02:07

Hi,

I would go with pass, but
I wont feel happy about it.

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Posted 2008-February-13, 03:22

Nightmare. I think 2NT is best, but I hate it. It seems like we probably need a simulation to settle this.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 03:33

can we use a cattle prod on whoever chooses leaping michaels?

2NT, please.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 04:06

Since I got 3 spades, there's not a lot of rush in acting. Pard should be short in spades and he'll balance if we got a game.

However, if pard is of the shy variant, I'll dbl. Even despite not playing ELC :)
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Posted 2008-February-13, 04:13

I don't feel strongly about 2N vs pass. Off-shape is not an issue but the values are marginal, IMHO. Dbl with this hand would require ELC, afraid we don't play that (if we did, this one would not be a problem).
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Posted 2008-February-13, 04:29

whereagles, on Feb 13 2008, 03:06 AM, said:

Since I got 3 spades, there's not a lot of rush in acting. Pard should be short in spades and he'll balance if we got a game.

However, if pard is of the shy variant, I'll dbl. Even despite not playing ELC :)

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Posted 2008-February-13, 04:31

ah ok... I hate when people say "pass to you". I never quite figure out what that means.. lol

Anyway, I still pass if pard is aggressive or dbl if pard is shy.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 08:23

whereagles, on Feb 13 2008, 05:31 AM, said:

ah ok... I hate when people say "pass to you".

I like it when they say "LHO opens 2♠ and this is passed to you"

Hmm this is tough. I guess I go with 2NT.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 08:41

andy_h, on Feb 13 2008, 02:23 PM, said:

whereagles, on Feb 13 2008, 05:31 AM, said:

ah ok... I hate when people say "pass to you".

I like it when they say "LHO opens 2♠ and this is passed to you"

thank you for pointing out the obvious
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Posted 2008-February-13, 08:50

2NT
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Posted 2008-February-13, 09:38

I'd pass. Would double if playing ELC.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 09:49

This is definitely a Double for me with ELC. I don't like 2NT at all.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 10:17

4♥ is too likely here opposite the right 8 count. I guess I double but I don't mind 2N.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 11:58

As a follow-up question, say you double and partner bids either:

(1) 2NT lebensohl.

(2) 3♣ natural, promising some values (typically 8 with a five-card suit to 11 or so)

What's your plan now?
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Posted 2008-February-13, 12:29

awm, on Feb 13 2008, 09:58 AM, said:

As a follow-up question, say you double and partner bids either:

(1) 2NT lebensohl.

(2) 3♣ natural, promising some values (typically 8 with a five-card suit to 11 or so)

What's your plan now?

3♦ over either.

I know this shows extras not playing ELC, but I made a calculated risk when I doubled to find hearts.
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