[Cyberyeti]

There are auctions like:

1♦-(1N)-X-(2♣) (you have the agreement that after you have doubled that you won't sell out to 2m undoubled so pass is forcing)

1♦-(X)-XX-(2♣)

If you have 4♥/5 or 6 diamonds and a sub minimum, are you allowed to bid 2♥ ?

[jillybean]

if pass is forcing, I have to bid 2D
Im not sure I like you agreements with sub minimum openings first seat

[mike777]

Cyberyeti, on 2026-March-08, 13:02, said:

There are auctions like:

1♦-(1N)-X-(2♣) (you have the agreement that after you have doubled that you won't sell out to 2m undoubled so pass is forcing)

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If I understand the problem, I have opened the bidding with a sub minimum hand.
A hand below our minimum opening agreement.

Yes I bid.

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1♦-(X)-XX-(2♣)

If you have 4♥/5 or 6 diamonds and a sub minimum, are you allowed to bid 2♥ ?

[Cyberyeti]

Actually not below our agreements, but below a standard opening bid.

x, KJ0x, KQxxxx, xx is a perfectly fine opening bid for us, rule of 19, intermediates, all the points in the long suits, but not sure I want partner doubling 2♠.

Basically bidding shows less than a decent 12.

[mike777]

Cyberyeti, on 2026-March-08, 14:40, said:

Actually not below our agreements, but below a standard opening bid.

x, KJ0x, KQxxxx, xx is a perfectly fine opening bid for us, rule of 19, intermediates, all the points in the long suits, but not sure I want partner doubling 2♠.

Basically bidding shows less than a decent 12.

Then I bid, yes

A perfectly fine NV 3D opening...
Certainly a fine 2D vul opener

If one level then yes I bid again to show this type of hand

[pescetom]

If your potentially aggressive 1♦ opening is documented on a system card and requires no alert under your regulations then no problem as I see it, so long as partner will alert and if requested explain correctly any call you now make (including Pass).

[Cyberyeti]

pescetom, on 2026-March-08, 16:45, said:

If your potentially aggressive 1♦ opening is documented on a system card and requires no alert under your regulations then no problem as I see it, so long as partner will alert and if requested explain correctly any call you now make (including Pass).

Requires no alert, is documented on the card, and the calls are alerted/explained.

Also we don't have a weak 2♦ available (multi), way too good for 3♦.