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Benellis58 GIB bashing on repeat Groundhog Day

#101 User is offline   benellis58 

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Posted 2025-October-27, 02:42

West, North, and East are GIB robots. As everyone must know, and as I have previously stated, leads are often a bit of a guess and can involve a certain amount of luck, depending on the random layout of any random hand. Having said that, however, East's lead here seems like a particularly unwise choice on the auction that took place:

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Posted 2025-October-27, 06:56

West, North, and East are all GIB robots. Observe the typically ludicrous lead from West:

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Posted 2025-October-27, 07:42

View Postbenellis58, on 2025-October-27, 02:38, said:

Shyams, re: "Oh, I thought this was the actual hand." I assume that you have now realized that what you linked was not the actual hand. Had you first looked at the hand I linked, that would have been evident.

My modified construct of your actual hand was a quick example of how every action by the West bot appeared justified.
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Posted 2025-October-27, 17:56

In attempting to defend the West robot, you have pointed out an error by the EAST robot in the ACTUAL hand: namely that in the actual hand, the East robot had K65 of spades, and after winning trick one with his king, he VERY incorrectly returned the FIVE rather than the SIX at trick two. I hadn't even bothered to mention that, because I don't have the time or desire to catalog ALL their errors (or even CLOSE to all their errors), but due (only) to your post I am mentioning it now. Also, even in your modified construction, there would STILL be no need for West to shift to the TEN of clubs looking at that dummy. Little things mean a lot, and while their numerous BIG errors are beneath contempt, their numerous "small" errors are also inexcusable and often costly.
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Posted 2025-October-29, 22:41

West, North, and East are all GIB robots.

Here is an example of a typically stupid overbid by the GIB robot sitting North. Whenever opener rebids his major, showing at least a sixth card in his suit, the GIB robot tends to overbid by a level if he has any semblance of support. He will almost always invite by raising to three when he should pass, and he tends to leap to four when he should merely invite by raising to three. This hand is not a GIB aberration - it is TYPICALLY stupid and EXPECTED bidding by the GIB robots in this type of situation.

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Posted 2025-October-31, 06:55

The main point of interest here is a typically ridiculous GIB definition. 4S is ludicrously defined as "4+ clubs, 5+ spades, 9-12 total points". If North actually had at LEAST five SPADES and possibly ONLY four clubs, why on EARTH would his initial response to the double have been three CLUBS???!!!

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Posted 2025-October-31, 07:03

Beginning with a typically poor opening lead, and then continuing with his expected poor play during the hand, the GIB robot sitting West does not exactly defend brilliantly:

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Posted 2025-November-01, 12:28

West, North, and East are all GIB robots.

On this hand, 7NT is cold, but "we" (NS) bid only 6S, obviously making with an overtrick, for 71.4% on the board. But the story is the typically LUDICROUS GIB definitions, particularly for South's 3S and 6C, which both INSANELY include the comment "4- spades" despite the fact that South's sequence SHOULD show at LEAST five spades. Also, the definitions for North's 2NT, 3NT, and 6S are all so ridiculously vague that they are basically useless. The GIB robots are weak in all facets of the game but perhaps they have the partial excuse that they are saddled with a hopelessly poor system and are governed by definitions that are frequently ridiculous or useless.

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Posted 2025-November-04, 03:27

This hand is from a Just Declare game, so it is a mandated auction showcasing exactly how the GIB robots bid - and, as you will see, and as you probably already knew, they bid very, VERY poorly. Here's a quick report on the key points of this mandated auction:

Instead of overcalling South's 1D opening bid, West foolishly doubles it. The mandated auction later has South bid 2D after North bids 1NT.

South's 2D is then passed around to East, who, in the passout seat, decides to compete. WHY he would choose to compete - on a hand with a mere TWO HCP - at UNFAVOURABLE vulnerability - is a question that has NO good answer! But it gets even worse, because he decides that the "suit" he should compete in is his...652 (!) of spades. He MUCH prefers bidding THAT suit rather than his 10653 of hearts, because...because...well, because he is a GIB robot and has no idea whatsoever of how to bid. He shouldn't be bidding anything, but when he DOES bid, he chooses his shortest and weakest non-diamond suit. That's GIB "logic" for you in a nutshell!

The mandated auction has South double this, presumably for penalties (although the GIB definition is, as is SO often the case, vague and poorly written). 2S would certainly go down, but the mandated auction has North pull the double to 3D, thereby converting a plus to a minus - yet another GIB specialty.

So, in an auction where ALL the bids were in effect made by GIB, there were MULTIPLE examples of truly hopeless bidding, with the worst being East's insane 2S bid.

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Posted 2025-November-04, 04:04

West, North, and East are all GIB robots.

At trick 8, to defeat South's contract of 3S, East merely has to make the 100% OBVIOUS move of playing his ace of hearts. South can ruff, but will later have to lose a diamond for down one. However, the GIB robot sitting East makes the remarkably stupid play of a diamond, and South scores an impossible plus 140."Impossible", that is, except against an incompetent GIB robot like this East, who has no idea how to defend.

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Posted Yesterday, 04:55

The point of interest here is a common occurrence in auctions of this type. It is a (typically) silly (and in this case also annoying) GIB definition.

The definition of North's 2NT is "Invitational to 3NT game - 8 HCP; 9 total points; stop in spades". How do I hate thee (o, GIB definition)? Let me count the ways:

First, the "annoying" part: Is it REALLY necessary to include in the definition that 3NT is "game"? The GIB definitions frequently neglect to include useful, valuable information, yet here they are wasting time and space (and inferentially INSULTING players) by needlessly mentioning that 3NT is "game". Ridiculous.

Second: Where is the LOGIC? North, in an UNINTERRUPTED auction, PASSED his partner's 1NT opening bid. He presumably had ZERO interest in inviting a game, so why would he NOW - AFTER the opponents have shown values by entering the auction and AFTER the opponents have exchanged at least a bit of information - NOW suddenly and belatedly - be inviting game? Preposterous. He is COMPETING. He is NOT (or SHOULD not, anyway) be "inviting game".

Third: The definition says he has 8 HCP...but NINE total points. How, where, and why does he have an extra "total" point...in this NO TRUMP hand? Answer: He doesn't - either in practice or in theory.

Fourth: It says "stop in spades". WHERE, may I ask? His spades - in FRONT of the spade bidder yet (!), not that it really matters, are 965. Not MY idea of a "stop in spades".

And, as I said at the beginning, this is a COMMON occurrence, since it is GIB's NORMAL (!) definition in auctions of this type. Just another example of how utterly pathetic GIB's definitions tend to be.

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Posted Today, 08:33

West, North, and East are all GIB robots. The auction is mandated, as is the opening lead, so all bids and the opening lead are what GIB believes are the best actions. Watch how the defensive "abilities" of the GIB robots ineptly allow a doubled overtrick to be made against them:

https://www.bridgeba...C6%7Cmc%7C10%7C
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Posted Today, 08:45

Not my table, but a hand I saw played at another table in the same event. West, North, and East are all GIB robots. Declarer South is a human, although I have no idea who and don't really care, since this account is, as always, about the GIB robots.

The key piece of amusement here is the fantastically stupid play at trick eleven by the GIB robot sitting East, which allows South to make his "impossible" contract. It's always been evident what truly wretched "defenders" the GIB robots are, so this is but one example of their world class incompetence:

https://www.bridgeba...S4%7Cmc%7C11%7C
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