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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2025-August-14, 19:54

Wolff sign off

Is it only on after a minor suit opening?
Or is it on after
1H-1S
2NT-3C?
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Posted 2025-August-14, 21:16

I play it on after any 2nt rebid

1H 1S
2N 3D is now the checkback
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Posted 2025-August-15, 01:59

As jillybean if agreed to play, but with two 'f's.
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Posted 2025-August-15, 12:44

Originally it was only after minor openings but is suited to use after 1H-1S as the 4324 hand is accounted for by eliminating opener’s 3-card support response
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Posted 2025-August-15, 15:05

 WasWinM, on 2025-August-15, 12:44, said:

Originally it was only after minor openings but is suited to use after 1H-1S as the 4324 hand is accounted for by eliminating opener’s 3-card support response


Very interesting and helpful, ty
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Posted 2025-August-18, 09:30

 mike777, on 2025-August-14, 19:54, said:

Wolff sign off

Is it only on after a minor suit opening?
Or is it on after
1H-1S
2NT-3C?

Is there a 'neither' option? :)

More seriously, what is the presumed main advantage of all this, allowing a very weak responder to stop in a suit part score rather than 2NT?
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Posted 2025-August-18, 10:03

Yes, that is the main idea. Typical example hands are something like ♠Kxxxx, ♥Txxx, ♦x, ♣xxx where partner opens 1♦, you squeeze out 1♠, and partner jump rebids to 2NT. Now it would be nice to get out at 3♥ or 3♠, whichever fits partner best - both 2NT and game are likely poor options. Or ♠Txxx, ♥x, ♦QTxxx, ♣Qxx where on 1♥-1♠; 2NT it would be nice to stop in 3♦.
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