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How to play to kill 3NT from Vugr4aph

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Posted 2023-October-02, 17:42

west
♠Axxxxx

♥x
♦Ak9X
♣xxX

East
♠jx

♥AQxxxxx
♦J
♣KQxx
East West play in 3NT
North
♠108
♥K10xx
♦10xxx
♣AJ10
South
♠KQ9x
♥Jx
♦Qxxx
♣xxx

According to double dummy the killer for North South is mainly to keep leading diamonds- I don't see how it works. The contract with such a misfit and no intermediaties is awful in my mind.
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Posted 2023-October-02, 20:58

It's really hard to tell what the hands are meant to be as East and West both have 14 cards and you haven't said who is on lead. Can you use the hand diagram tool?
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Posted 2023-October-03, 00:59

View Postsmerriman, on 2023-October-02, 20:58, said:

It's really hard to tell what the hands are meant to be as East and West both have 14 cards and you haven't said who is on lead. Can you use the hand diagram tool?

Hand 28 of Kabra National Pairs Super League 8_8



vg|KABRA NATIONAL PAIRS,SUPER LEAGUE 8_8,I,25,32,A,0,B,0|
rs|2HE=,1SW=,4HW-1,4HW=,7SNx-1,6SN=,3NW=,3NE-1,3SW+2,4SW+1,1NW-4,3NN=,3NN+2,3NS+2,4HNx-1,4DW-2|
pn|Dhakras,H Jalan,Bhiwandkat,Sukamal,SOMESH,ARUP H,SAMIR B,ANIMESH|pg||
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pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|d6|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s7|pc|cK|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|h7|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|cT|pc|dT|pg||
pg||
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pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h8|pc|s5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s9|pc|hJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pg||
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pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d6|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d3|pc|h8|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg||
mc|9|pg||
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pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg||
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pc|hK|mc|10|pg||
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pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg||
mc|12|pg||
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pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|c2|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SKQ94HJ4DQT72C985,SA6532H3DAK96C762,ST8HKT85D8543CAJT,SJ7HAQ9762DJCKQ43|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|s2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c5|pc|s3|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c9|pc|s6|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|h7|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SKQ94HJ4DQT72C985,SA6532H3DAK96C762,ST8HKT85D8543CAJT,SJ7HAQ9762DJCKQ43|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|d3|pc|h7|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h6|pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SK87H6542DJ7432C5,SAJT65432HDT65C87,SQHAKJ8DK9CAJT643,S9HQT973DAQ8CKQ92|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|h8|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SK87H6542DJ7432C5,SAJT65432HDT65C87,SQHAKJ8DK9CAJT643,S9HQT973DAQ8CKQ92|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|sK|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|s3|pc|h8|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c7|mc|11|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4S3HQ6DQJ864CA8732,S9862HJ954D75CQ54,SK74HA82DAK93CKJ6,SAQJT5HKT73DT2CT9|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s6|pc|d9|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c7|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|c8|pc|hJ|pg||
pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4S3HQ6DQJ864CA8732,S9862HJ954D75CQ54,SK74HA82DAK93CKJ6,SAQJT5HKT73DT2CT9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h3|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s5|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
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qx|c31|st||md|1SJ96HAQTDKT76CAK7,SAQ53H8432D53CJ82,SKTHJ976DA942CQ96,S8742HK5DQJ8CT543|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SAT6HQ84DQ42C9843,SJ432HJDKJ86CAKT2,SKQ5HAT9765DAC765,S987HK32DT9753CQJ|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|s9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h6|pc|s8|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|s3|pg||
mc|9|nt|vugraphzhb: tx all|pg||
pg||
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pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
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Posted 2023-October-03, 01:06

OP when he says use the hand diagram tool, he means the one in here with the spade symbol at the right of the list of icons
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Posted 2023-October-03, 16:56

View PostCyberyeti, on 2023-October-03, 01:06, said:

OP when he says use the hand diagram tool, he means the one in here with the spade symbol at the right of the list of icons



That hand diagram tool is such a pain.
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Posted 2023-October-03, 17:19

View Postcloa513, on 2023-October-03, 16:56, said:

That hand diagram tool is such a pain.

You tend to wind up with 13 cards in each hand when you use it. So it's not all bad.
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Posted 2023-October-03, 22:40

View Postsfi, on 2023-October-03, 17:19, said:

You tend to wind up with 13 cards in each hand when you use it. So it's not all bad.


Easiest thing to fix.
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