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Posted 2021-January-25, 21:19

How would you play

1 - 1
2 - 3 ?

where 1 = 4+, not 4s, 11-15
1 = 11+ relay
2 = balanced

Responder can bid 2 to invite; or continue relay with a good heart hand; or have bid 2NT as a raise first time.
So 3 is not needed. We play it as shortage.

Being forced to open a major with four small can give responder doubts about 3NT.
"Is my singleton facing KQTx or xxxx?"
We have found that hands with a singleton do better to show than ask. Let partner decide.

Here's a (slightly doctored) one we had recently



Overdoing it, maybe. Would be happy to reach 5 and find North with AQTxx.

We have extended this.
In relay auctions, ALL 3-level breaks (opposite a bid that shows balanced) show shortage.

1 - 1
2 - 3/// show shortage.

Invitational hands with a long minor would have responded 3/ initially. (Or bid 2NT/3NT/relay now)

We do the same in strong club auctions:

1 - 2 = 8+ balanced with a major
3 any is a splinter

David Morgan points out that these should really be transfer splinters to give extra options to both.
You might even bid this way with a 6-card major

AKxxxx x KQx Axx

When partner shows 8+ bal, this hand would like to show a mild slam try with six spades and a stiff heart.
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Posted 2021-January-26, 02:12

View Postshevek, on 2021-January-25, 21:19, said:

2 = balanced

And still 11-15?

If so, how would you bid with. say,

a) 11 hcp and 3424 opposite 11 hcp and 4243
b) 15 hcp and 3424 opposite 7 hcp and 4243

?

Maybe

a) 1-1; 2-2N; P
b) 1-1N; P

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Posted 2021-January-26, 16:22

View Postnullve, on 2021-January-26, 02:12, said:

And still 11-15?

If so, how would you bid with. say,

a) 11 hcp and 3424 opposite 11 hcp and 4243
b) 15 hcp and 3424 opposite 7 hcp and 4243

?

Maybe

a) 1-1; 2-2N; P
b) 1-1N; P

?


Yes. We pass some balanced 11-counts. Not a good look to play 2NT with 11+11.
When you focus so much on shape, there is a cost.
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