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#1 User is offline   joker_gib 

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Posted 2005-June-03, 03:47

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Bidding :

1 (2)* 3 (3)**
4

* : Preempt with 6
** : Competitive

Lead :

A (for east 6) , 2 for east 10 who now plays K !

How do you play ?
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Posted 2005-June-03, 04:00

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I hate these opponents. Why can't they just lead their suit? I am a total fish, so I buy the idea of a club ruff. A 3-3 diamond break and the 2-2 heart break are the same hand. Looks like there are more possibilities for 3-1 hearts and 4-2 diamonds. Absolutely no squeeze.

I think my best chance is to ruff with the heart ace, play the heart queen, and finesse the heart 10, playing LHO for 6-3-2-2 distribution.
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Posted 2005-June-03, 05:31

From East's lead we know he has a doubleton .
East is:
6=3=2=2
or
6=2=3=2
or
6=1=4=2
If the distribution is 6=1=4=2 then we can't win.
In first 2 cases we win if we ruff with A, play Q and finesse . Either the finesse wins or our looser goes on the 4th
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Posted 2005-June-03, 05:39

Ruff with A, Q, K, and lead J for a ruffing finesse.

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Posted 2005-June-03, 05:46

cherdano, on Jun 3 2005, 06:39 AM, said:

Ruff with A, Q, K, and lead J for a ruffing finesse.

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When you play the J, this is the last from dummy so there is no ruffing finesse !?
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Posted 2005-June-03, 05:50

joker_gib, on Jun 3 2005, 12:46 PM, said:

cherdano, on Jun 3 2005, 06:39 AM, said:

Ruff with A, Q, K, and lead J for a ruffing finesse.

Arend

When you play the J, this is the last from dummy so there is no ruffing finesse !?

Oops haven't had coffee yet... :(

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Posted 2005-June-03, 05:51

Ruff high, play K, Q and a small diamond.

If diamonds break, then hearts break also.

If west shows out on the 3rd round of diamonds, then hearts are 3-1. Either he discards and you can finesse the hearts or he trumps and then you can draw trumps and pitch a spade on the diamond ace.
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Posted 2005-June-03, 05:52

cherdano, on Jun 3 2005, 06:50 AM, said:

Oops haven't had coffee yet... :o

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Yes, Arend, coffee will be a better start !! :( :)

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Posted 2005-June-03, 05:58

PMetsch, on Jun 3 2005, 06:51 AM, said:

Ruff high, play K, Q and a small diamond.

If diamonds break, then hearts break also.

If west shows out on the 3rd round of diamonds, then hearts are 3-1. Either he discards and you can finesse the hearts or he trumps and then you can draw trumps and pitch a spade on the diamond ace.

OK, if you have 2 diamond aces because after small to the ace (I suppose), I think that the ace is in the deck ! :(

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Posted 2005-June-03, 06:00

joker_gib, on Jun 3 2005, 06:58 AM, said:

PMetsch, on Jun 3 2005, 06:51 AM, said:

Ruff high, play K, Q and a small diamond.

If diamonds break, then hearts break also.

If west shows out on the 3rd round of diamonds, then hearts are 3-1. Either he discards and you can finesse the hearts or he trumps and then you can draw trumps and pitch a spade on the diamond ace.

OK, if you have 2 diamond aces because after small to the ace (I suppose), I think that the ace is in the deck ! :o

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Sorry, cancel this post, I misread ! :(
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Posted 2005-June-03, 06:20

PMetsch, on Jun 3 2005, 11:51 AM, said:

Ruff high, play K, Q and a small diamond.

If diamonds break, then hearts break also.

If west shows out on the 3rd round of diamonds, then hearts are 3-1. Either he discards and you can finesse the hearts or he trumps and then you can draw trumps and pitch a spade on the diamond ace.

You still loose if West has 6=1=4=2 distribution, same chances as ruff high, play high and finesse ?

... and if West has 6=1=4=2 distribution and you take the finesse line: If the finesse looses, you never know that East returns a (I agree that the probability is very very low :( ). This would lead to:



First squeezing West out of , later squeeze East in and

... you never know :o . It would cancel out all the bad results of the evening.
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Posted 2005-June-03, 06:48

Ruff with the A and confirm doubleton .

If West has 3 we are home, so we muist assume he has only 2.

That leaves him with 3, ,so play Q+ fienese against West.
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Posted 2005-June-03, 07:12

kgr, on Jun 3 2005, 07:20 AM, said:

same chances as ruff high, play high and finesse ?

The discovery play in diamonds will yield 11 tricks if diamonds are 3-3 and hearts are 2-2. If you take the heart finesse first and it loose you only make 10 tricks.

No play will work, if west has 6=1=4=2, then I loose 2 clubs and 2 hearts. The squeeze will be for 1 down instead of 2 down.
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Posted 2005-June-06, 02:41

This is in fact a safety play based on the simple count of the hand !

Ruff with Q then play A and to the 10 when west play low ! If east makes his jack ( 2-2) then diamonds are 3-3 because east is known to have 3 and 5 !
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Posted 2005-June-06, 08:02

weeeee! I guessed one :-P
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