[PriorKnowledge]

3C for me. 2nd choice is 1C.

What happens if we pass and the hand belongs us. Say partner opens 1H. Now what? How are you going to find your slam if partner has a good hand with the ♣Ax? How is partner going to know that in addition to our meager HCP and heart support we have a 7-card club suit? But if we open 3C and partner bids 3H we bid 3S or 4D. Now partner knows we have heart support with outside controls along with a long club suit.

If the hand belongs to the opps, we have stopped them from using their fancy gadgets and forced them to guess.

If the hand is a push, 3C will buy the contract and is probably the right place.

[MickyB]

Most would play 3♣ as a fit jump there Prior, sounds like a good start.

[mike777]

On second thought 3c is perfect since P is UPH.

1) Tells p I have more hcp outside of clubs then in
2) Tells p I have side 4 card major
3) Tells p I have void.
4) More important to obstruct opp then have constructive auction with UPH.

[hrothgar]

GOOD question...

I'm going to pass.
If I open this hand, I'm opening 1♣. The combination of a void + a chunky 4 card major is too much of a position to consider a preempt.

[the hog]

Pre empting on this hand is a poor bid. The side 4 card major does not hase me, but that in addition to the D void and the posession of the KJ of S give this hand far too many flaws. If I open this at all, it would be with 1C, however I think pass is best. I will very likely take a bid later with this.

[Cascade]

Winstonm, on Jun 3 2005, 04:44 AM, said:

1) Void - too much trick taking potential

Funny I have never won a trick with a void in my life :-)

[Fluffy]

why is people passing?

are you afraid of losing ♥ fit?

your hand will make about 2x trricks playing in ♣ tan ♥ normally. I don't really wanna find a 4-4♥ fit if there is one there. 5-4 might be another hsitory, but partner wouldl have 2 honnors in the suit andmight bid it by himself.

Obvious 3♣ to me.

[Winstonm]

Oddly, I had a similar hand come up tonight. Pard opened 2H in first seat, vul. vs. nv, and RHO overcalled 3C. I held AKQ42, 2, QJ5, K643 - what do you do?

Pard's hand was: 10863, KJ10864, A93, void. We were on for 6S as everything behaved as it should - alas, we did not get there, LoL.

Opposite xx, QJ108xx, K1082, x, we might as well defend 3C as to stretch for 3H.

In my view, when a hand is playable in two suits, the void is the problem, as with a fit for either suit the hand grows enormously in value and you can never "catch up" in the bidding after the weakness announcing preempt. In the hand my partner held, take away one of those little spades and turn it into a club and the hand might easily go down in 4S with either a 4-1 break or a diamond ruff.

So, because my partner doesn't allow me to open 1 with these sorts of hands, I am resigned to passing.

[mike777]

Pard's hand was: 10863, KJ10864, A93, void. We were on for 6S as everything behaved as it should - alas, we did not get there, LoL.

This seems to be a clear cut 1H opener..compare to the posted one or three club hand.

Dealer: South
Vul: E/W
Scoring: IMP
♠ KJ
♥ JT74
♦
♣ KJT9753

[joker_gib]

PASS for all the reasons explained before (major, void,...)

Alain

[civill]

3C,or pass.

[whereagles]

Cascade, on Jun 3 2005, 03:01 AM, said:

Winstonm, on Jun 3 2005, 04:44 AM, said:

1) Void - too much trick taking potential

Funny I have never won a trick with a void in my life :-)

LOL

[joker_gib]

civill, on Jun 3 2005, 02:44 AM, said:

3C,or pass.

Yes, that's the question Frederick has asked ! LOL

[Antoine Fourrière]

I would certainly open this hand with some number of clubs, perhaps a Precision/Polish 2♣ if I have that bid in my bag (I'm not sure it would be superior here), but certainly a natural 3♣ or 4♣ otherwise, although I would prefer a flatter hand for 3♣ and a weaker hand for 4♣. Hearts will play better than clubs only if partner has five of them, and if it is clearly your hand, so I think that you should forget about both the void and the four-card heart fit. (If I had four spades, I would feel more at risk, but a heart fit increases the chances they have a spade fit, so it isn't really the same situation that Winstonm's hand, which I would nevertheless open 2♥, because the hearts are good.)

I do not like Pass at all. The call is as artificial as a strong 1♣ and strong 2♣, and seems misguided when you have something useful to say. I view passing as refusing to take the blame for a possible accident. 1♣ is somewhat better, but also doesn't do justice to this hand.