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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2005-June-02, 22:05

Scoring: MP

E - S - W - N
1♦ -ps -1♥ -2♣
ps*-ps -ps


ps*= 0-2♥.

EW were apparently playing a basic 2/1.
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Posted 2005-June-02, 22:27

Fluffy, on Jun 2 2005, 11:05 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

E - S - W - N
1♦ -ps -1♥ -2♣
ps*-ps -ps


ps*= 0-2♥.

EW were apparently playing a basic 2/1.

Are you suggesting N should x and not bid 2c?
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Posted 2005-June-02, 23:10

I think 2♣ is a fine bid, but as I have said so many times before, I have a lot of respect for 2-level overcalls. Therefore, I would have no qualms about rasing to 3♣ with the South hand.

If we get doubled and go for 300-500, we need to talk with partner about overcalls at the 2-level (and higher) when both opponents are unlimited.

3♣ is not obvious for many partnerships, so it's a bit harsh to assign blame here. South gets 12½%, the rest goes to society and lack of agreements regarding overcalls.

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Posted 2005-June-03, 01:52

Roland is right that 2-level overcalls when both opponents are unlimited have to be very sound but, here, I think I have too much and I probably would have start with a double. :blink:

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Posted 2005-June-03, 01:59

No blame. Underbidding can happen, especially at matchpoints when nonvulnerable.
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Posted 2005-June-03, 08:07

I like a X with the north hand, is a bit good for 2C though that is reasonable. I agree with souths pass at matchpoints, but not at imps. Mainly a little bad luck, both partners were maximum
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Posted 2005-June-03, 08:35

Isn't anyone blaming west for not passing or opening 1♠ like he should??? :)
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Posted 2005-June-03, 08:36

lol, the opps random bidding is not our concern :)
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Posted 2005-June-03, 10:29

my first thought is to double with the north hand... after thinking further, i would double with the north hand.. how can partner ever know i'm this strong if i start with a (passed out) overcall?
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