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#1 User is offline   eagles123 

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Posted 2020-March-12, 12:33

C Flight pick up partner playing basic acol system with about 30 seconds discussion before start of play. Matchpoints.




thoughts on the earlier passes? what's your poison now?

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Posted 2020-March-12, 13:45

Well, it seems like you're end-played into bidding here because you hold far too much to take a 4th pass. Your partner would shoot you.

I think you have a pretty clear double of 2. 3 suits have been bid, this should be penalty without discussion, but it's penalty in the sense that you're showing diamond length and values. It's certainly not forcing partner to pass. You should have some tolerance for hearts, and more tolerance for spades when partner has to run. Now your partner can re-evaluate his hand.

You're protected by your two previous passes when you double. You clearly have 4, and 2, as you couldn't overcall 1, and you are not supporting hearts. You should have 10-11 HCP for your double, it's rather straightforward. Your partner will now have the information to make a decision, because, clearly, your hand has no idea what contract is right.


Upon reflection, I guess you could simply have more clubs and less spades, but, that hand might prefer to pass 2, paradoxically.
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Posted 2020-March-12, 13:51

I'd pass with the East hand. My partner has been bidding some of my points.

That's what I used to do, speculate that partner passed with some points and bid aggressively on their behalf :)
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Posted 2020-March-12, 14:48

Cannot fathom what's going on here whatsoever. Pass seems the least disastrous option.

Partner bidding (balancing in some way) twice after passing on the first round - when he/she could open 3rd in hand light at favourable vulnerability (but does that even come into their remit?) - seems completely ludicrous.

If there are 10 tricks in s between the two hands I very much doubt, but miracles do happen :)
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Posted 2020-March-12, 15:51

I'd come in with QJ103 A5 9532 A54, but with what you have, I can't imagine game.
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Posted 2020-March-12, 15:52

I opened 1N at this vul, but this auction seriously doesn't exist for us.

Was your agreement weak or strong 2s ?
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Posted 2020-March-12, 15:58

View PostCyberyeti, on 2020-March-12, 15:52, said:

I opened 1N at this vul, but this auction seriously doesn't exist for us.

Was your agreement weak or strong 2s ?


I mean, I can imagine some 6-5 hand with like 8 HCP in West... But, I'm with you on this one, I don't really believe that West has it, and I wouldn't agree with pass on such a hand.
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Posted 2020-March-12, 16:10

View PostKingCovert, on 2020-March-12, 15:58, said:

I mean, I can imagine some 6-5 hand with like 8 HCP in West... But, I'm with you on this one, I don't really believe that West has it, and I wouldn't agree with pass on such a hand.


Well that's an unusual NT, was thinking 6-4 or 7-4
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