[phoenixmj]

Cyberyeti, on 2019-April-03, 09:48, said:

1N in first seat for me, has the advantage that often enough, you will play 1N=/-1 vs 2♠= where they don't want to overcall 2♠ in second seat, but would overcall 1♠ over 1m.

And Gordon's auction is the reason you open 1♦ rather than 1♣.

Curious - I am guessing you play a weak 1
N? I know this seems to be common in Canada - wonder if also true in UK?

[Cyberyeti]

phoenixmj, on 2019-April-03, 10:18, said:

Curious - I am guessing you play a weak 2N? I know this seems to be common in Canada - wonder if also true in UK?

Weak 2N ? I play a weak 1N and yes this was very common here, getting a bit less common but still very common at lower levels.

It is known as the lowest preempt in the book with good reason.

[sultro]

Playing weak NT, this isn't even close, yes always. Playing strong nt, I like my bid less, but I'm still popping it open a diamond. It's a little better if we are at least playing Spiral. Regular partner will never believe I have this much strength if I have passed.

[Winstonm]

I would open but I wouldn't like it.

[argong1]

phoenixmj, on 2019-April-02, 09:47, said:

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ew is vulnerable
ns is not vulnerable

definitely, there is 12 points and normal distribution, and most people open like that

[phoenixmj]

Cyberyeti, on 2019-April-03, 10:32, said:

Weak 2N ? I play a weak 1N and yes this was very common here, getting a bit less common but still very common at lower levels.

It is known as the lowest preempt in the book with good reason.

Sorry - I meant 1NT

I know people swear by it and I must admit I hate it when people use it - so obviously it is effective.

Thanks -

[phoenixmj]

sultro, on 2019-April-03, 12:38, said:

Playing weak NT, this isn't even close, yes always. Playing strong nt, I like my bid less, but I'm still popping it open a diamond. It's a little better if we are at least playing Spiral. Regular partner will never believe I have this much strength if I have passed.

We just added spiral - and that I think does make it an easier choice for me. I did not open - and the hand was passed out. With spiral - I think I would open now.

[marklaf]

I would probably pass in 3rd seat and 4th.

[croquetfan]

Those who say yes "automatic" seem to have a short memory for the times opening this garbage has gone horribly wrong. I have certainly had some 100% results from passing this sort of hand, accompanied by rage from the 4th seater who says "everyone opens that hand!" (chuckle, chuckle, I didn't).
Either partner has a good hand and carries you to a bad 3NT.. "oh unlucky partner, going down in a balanced 24 count", or opps have 4/4 spades and neither opens or partner has garbage and you go 300 off.
As another responder has said, you need overall statistics, not just the memory of occasional triumph!

[BillPatch]

Kaplan and Sheinwold would never systematically open this hand non-vulnerable. Vulnerable they would not open a weak NT with 12 points unless it had 2 & 1/2 or more quick tricks. They were a great partnership, until Betty left her husband Sheinwold to marry Edgar Kaplan. 11.6 points according to Kaplan(KnR points).

[dil21]

Open 1D, no re-bid problem. If pard bids 1H, I bid 2H. If pard bids 1S, I bid 2C or 1NT.

[bridge835]

phoenixmj, on 2019-April-02, 09:47, said:

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ew is vulnerable
ns is not vulnerable

without seeing a possible rebid, i would not open.

[Dinarius]

Yes. Not even close.

1♦️ When in doubt, open the suit you want led, as the best player I ever knew once said to me.

D.