[eagles123]

pretty weak opps BIGGGGGG tank before passing 3 clubs


lead 8 of hearts A 2 3

trick 2 Jack of clubs

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[Hyperon]

Duck to give partner his potential ♣Qx. There is almost no option to put up a special defense here. Partner's lead is unlikely to be a singleton and partner is unlikely to hold the ♦A.

[nullve]

Win with the ace and play the ♦3, which will hopefully look like a singleton. (If partner has ♣Qx, then declarer has to guess both minor suits for this line to be wrong. Even if partner has the stiff ♣Q or ♣K you'll get the trick back if declarer misguesses diamonds.)

[MrAce]

nullve, on 2016-July-01, 02:49, said:

Win with the ace and play the ♦3, which will hopefully look like a singleton. (If partner has ♣Qx, then declarer has to guess both minor suits for this line to be wrong. Even if partner has the stiff ♣Q or ♣K you'll get the trick back if declarer misguesses diamonds.)

It depends on what the ♥8 means. Would pd make a preemptive raise with...

xxxx
xxxx
xxxx
K

Or what would he lead from xxx ? If he leads the smallest (which is common sense to lead by count when you did/could not show support) then ♥ 8 is from doubleton. If so declarer has 5♥ and going for ♦ trick is futile. Especially if this plan consist of convincing declarer that I have doubleton ♣ + singleton ♦ + did not have any other bid over 3♣ at these colors. And play of ♣ J is a red flag that pd is likely to hold stiff Q or K. With KQxxx(x) ♣ declarer could easily play small from dummy.

[Phil]

MrAce, on 2016-July-01, 10:46, said:

It depends on what the ♥8 means. Would pd make a preemptive raise with...

xxxx
xxxx
xxxx
K

Or what would he lead from xxx ? If he leads the smallest (which is common sense to lead by count when you did/could not show support) then ♥ 8 is from doubleton. If so declarer has 5♥ and going for ♦ trick is futile. Especially if this plan consist of convincing declarer that I have doubleton ♣ + singleton ♦ + did not have any other bid over 3♣ at these colors. And play of ♣ J is a red flag that pd is likely to hold stiff Q or K. With KQxxx(x) ♣ declarer could easily play small from dummy.

I thought about this too. Declarer sounds like 2515. Declarer Needs SK and da plus one club honor or cKQ for bidding to make sense.

I really have no idea what's going on but there's nothing positive I can do if I hop cA.

[eagles123]

nullve, on 2016-July-01, 02:49, said:

Win with the ace and play the ♦3, which will hopefully look like a singleton. (If partner has ♣Qx, then declarer has to guess both minor suits for this line to be wrong. Even if partner has the stiff ♣Q or ♣K you'll get the trick back if declarer misguesses diamonds.)

well yes thats exactly what i did do, and of course declarer finessed and then made 12 tricks when he dropped pd's doubleton queen trump

https://app.pianola....6/Travellers/22

we got a 50% board but i wasn't sure if my play was correct

[eagles123]

MrAce, on 2016-July-01, 10:46, said:

It depends on what the ♥8 means. Would pd make a preemptive raise with...

xxxx
xxxx
xxxx
K

Or what would he lead from xxx ? If he leads the smallest (which is common sense to lead by count when you did/could not show support) then ♥ 8 is from doubleton. If so declarer has 5♥ and going for ♦ trick is futile. Especially if this plan consist of convincing declarer that I have doubleton ♣ + singleton ♦ + did not have any other bid over 3♣ at these colors. And play of ♣ J is a red flag that pd is likely to hold stiff Q or K. With KQxxx(x) ♣ declarer could easily play small from dummy.

partner isn't very sophisticated, he knows 2nd/4th and MUD so he will lead accordingly regardless of whether its pards suit or whatever

[rmnka447]

At Trick 2, you've got to play low from ♣ A. BUT it's terribly important to learn to make the play in tempo without any hitches. That puts declarer to a guess as to how the cards lie.

This is akin to another common situation where you're in front of dummy with Ax and dummy has KJ tight in the suit. Same situation -- play low in tempo without a hitch. It took me a long time to learn to do this, but once you do, you'll be surprised how often it reaps rewards.