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Rebid?

Poll: Rebid? (32 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. 2D (19 votes [59.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 59.38%

  2. 2S (12 votes [37.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  3. 2H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#21 User is offline   johnu 

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Posted 2016-April-20, 12:01

I am only familiar with the name Spiral Raises for using 2NT (2 after a raise in hearts) to check on trump length, hand strength, and distribution depending on the version you are using.
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Posted 2016-April-20, 12:05

 Vampyr, on 2016-April-20, 06:38, said:

I am not sure how common it is but it seems intriguing.

Place four North-American textbooks round a table and observe carefully. More common than you think.

I play the 5656 2NT convention in response to a weak 2M open : weak 5, weak 6, strong 5, strong 6.
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Posted 2016-April-20, 14:51

 johnu, on 2016-April-20, 12:01, said:

I am only familiar with the name Spiral Raises for using 2NT (2 after a raise in hearts) to check on trump length, hand strength, and distribution depending on the version you are using.


You are ahead of me. Gavin Wolpert has something on spiral for 1m-1M-2M, where 2M is possibly on 3, on BW
http://bridgewinners.../spiral-raises/

He remarks that it can apply after 1-1-2 as well, such as here. I am willing to believe it has merit (or at least I am not up for debating the issue with Wolpert). I like his observation that it has been useful for getting out in 3NT on a 4-4 fit when both players have weak trumps. It is true that in the natural approach I use we seldom, I won't say never, end in 4M on a 4-3 fit unless we want to, but we have no real way of finding 3NT in the weak 4-4 case.
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#24 User is offline   Zelandakh 

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Posted 2016-April-21, 05:03

Variations on the 3344 convention have come up many times on BBF, for example here, here, and here. I am fairly sure all of the BBF regulars have seen the convention at some point!
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Posted 2016-April-21, 07:02

So this question is simple, its convention is simplePosted Image
Doesn't need more discussionsPosted Image
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#26 User is offline   ahydra 

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Posted 2016-April-21, 07:23

 lycier, on 2016-April-21, 07:02, said:

So this question is simple, its convention is simplePosted Image
Doesn't need more discussionsPosted Image


Something doesn't make sense about the way you described it though. Surely with a 21-count opener is not just going to raise to 2M, lest responder pass and you miss the coldest 3NT/4M ever missed. In practice I suspect the range of 2M would be more like 11-16, with opener preferring a natural reverse or some other bid with more than that. And to be honest even making that bid with 16 HCP might risk missing game (since with a borderline invite, responder will think "he's far more likely to have 11 than 16").

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Posted 2016-April-21, 07:28

Yes, lycier wrote "maximum opening hand" rather than "maximum simple raise". In practise the range is likely to be ~12-15 or so TP.
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