Posted 2015-August-28, 16:08
If you haven't or not willing to go there and read thousands of page, I can try to summarize you.
I have been heavily involved in debates in BW. Basically the discussion and thousands of posts in BW are focused around;
Boye's side focus on
- Boye's past reputation
- Amount of risk he is taking in the case of failing to deliver the evidence.
- Close to a decade of suspicion about the alleged pair by every top player I have relation to or just learned in BW (actually suspicion is understatement, most of them in their mind are convinced)
- Some of the alleged discipline actions taken by Israeli Federation in the past.
- Suddenly the pair deciding not to play in BB, although they claim it is
- Vacating 3 titles that they already won, in 2014-2015 Reisinger-Spingold-Swiss all national titles. (sane person, even under heavy frustration, hardly gives up 3 titles 2 of them being huge, just because they lost 1 title)
- Broken system which is focused on catching cheaters redhanded just like coughing doctors. On camera, matching coughs with shortness, broken code etc. Happy ending. The argument that says "if we set the bar this high, we will have to wait decades to catch cheaters and there are a lot of them. And NBOs, ACBL, WBF, EBL has to take more effective measures.
- Poorly bid,played,defended hands, decisions which ends up in success. Which will be put on test by Kit Woolsey method. (although if that is only what Boye has in his hand, god help him)
- Three wrong claims during the match by alleged pair, benefitting their side, two of which was spotted at the table and corrected, one of them slipped. (remember the match was won by 1 imp even after the appeal)
Alleged pair's side focus on
- The shape and form of how the accusation made is wrong
- Timing was wrong
- Asking for evidence
- Repeatedly mentioning that Boye put the 2 young players and their livelihood and profession into big risk. And convicted them in the public eye already.
- Biased BW and their biased staff (Eugene)
- Boye is jealous and sour grape for losing the appeal and the Spingold.
- Why did Boye not mention any of these while playing with them in same team. He even played as partner with one of them in an event.
- Being skeptical about validity of Kit's method.
These are the most common comments, along with a lot of sarcastic, irrelevant replies, and side articles about how to catch cheaters at the top level without having the hard evidence such as how the info was delivered/received, which info was transferred, breaking the code. A lot of people sharing their experience of hands with the alleged pair, trying to come up with a conviction while other side says this is nothing. From my perspective, TOO MANY people trying to make analysis of these hands who are not even close the level of bridge being discussed there, and should have kept their silence.
I hope this helps if you do not want to go through days of painful reading, if you haven't already.
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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cherdano, on 2015-August-28, 13:45, said: