[Cyberyeti]

Encountered this hand last night, not sure how it should be bid, but the play is interesting too, would your play differ if you were in 4/5/6♥ and would it matter IMPs/MPs ?

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South deals at game all, was in fact MPs.

[lamford]

I would bid 1H-1S-3D-3H-4D and now I think I sign off with 4H on the North hand. 1H-1S-3D-3H-3S-4C-4D-4H is also possible, and probably better. I would win a probable black suit lead and play ace of diamonds and ruff a diamond, cash king of hearts, cross to the other black ace and ruff a diamond, pitch a spade on the king of clubs, ruff a spade back to hand, cash the ace of hearts and continue diamonds. To make six, it seems I need hearts 3-2 and diamonds 4-3 and no uppercut or winning overruff in spades, which is around 40% (42% less a bit for the uppercut, overruff or club ruff).

[Cyberyeti]

Lead I got in 6 (I showed a huge hand 5-5 in the reds via an artificial 1♥-1♠-2N rebid and partner moved over 4♦) was a small trump. The play in 6 is reasonably simple, you just need the reds to break and the blacks not to be completely horrible. Play is more interesting in 4 or 5.

[akwoo]

In a 5 card major context, it might go 1H-2H-3D-3H-3S-4C-4D-4H, playing 3D as a game try showing a second suit (turning into a slam try showing a second suit). With help suit game tries, you might get 1H-2H-3D-4H-4N-5C(1430)-5D-5H-6H

[FrancesHinden]

1H - 2H - 2S (relay) - 3D (singleton) - 4H

Responder can't really have enough - the best slam can be is hearts 3-2 and diamonds 4-3

At matchpoints you play 4H or 5H exactly the same way as 6H

[Lovera]

akwoo, on 2015-August-01, 15:26, said:

In a 5 card major context, it might go 1H-2H-3D-3H-3S-4C-4D-4H, playing 3D as a game try showing a second suit (turning into a slam try showing a second suit). With help suit game tries, you might get 1H-2H-3D-4H-4N-5C(1430)-5D-5H-6H

After 4NT..5♥ is usefull to ask for Q/K in spade :5♠-6♥(=neg.ve). If Q in spade instead 6♣. It'd possible 2♣-2♦, 2♥.. but after that heart fit is found an eventual cue bid searchin could not clear K of heart.

[Cyberyeti]

FrancesHinden, on 2015-August-01, 15:57, said:

1H - 2H - 2S (relay) - 3D (singleton) - 4H

Responder can't really have enough - the best slam can be is hearts 3-2 and diamonds 4-3

At matchpoints you play 4H or 5H exactly the same way as 6H

This makes sense in a 5M system, we were playing 4 so it was always starting 1♥-1♠.

Diamonds were 5-2 with the third one being overruffed by the doubleton, so 6♥-2.

The line for 11 tricks as the cards lie is to play ♠Ax, LHO has Hxx, but if you're in 5, I can't see a way of combining chances on a trump lead (although you possibly can on a minor suit lead) and would only consider it at teams.

[Lovera]

Cyberyeti, on 2015-August-02, 01:37, said:

This makes sense in a 5M system, we were playing 4 so it was always starting 1♥-1♠.

Diamonds were 5-2 with the third one being overruffed by the doubleton, so 6♥-2.

The line for 11 tricks as the cards lie is to play ♠Ax, LHO has Hxx, but if you're in 5, I can't see a way of combining chances on a trump lead (although you possibly can on a minor suit lead) and would only consider it at teams.

Unblocking club and pitching spade on K of club we can use spade suit to ruff in hand playing A and K of heart and using diamond (until second round) to ruff for entry (this one gain probability that 9 of heart not is overuffed).

[wank]

Cyberyeti, on 2015-August-02, 01:37, said:

This makes sense in a 5M system, we were playing 4 so it was always starting 1♥-1♠.

not always. i've played plenty of 4cM and i raise.

[Cyberyeti]

wank, on 2015-August-03, 03:40, said:

not always. i've played plenty of 4cM and i raise.

I got fed up playing in 2♥ in a 4-3 fit rather than 2♠ in a 4-4 opposite a 4432 15.