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Posted 2015-April-28, 01:39



Actually 2♠ should be a playable contract.
Gib bidding 3♦ would be to gild the lily.
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Posted 2015-April-28, 03:15

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To gild refined gold, to paint the lily,
To throw a perfume on the violet,


-- William Shakespeare, King John
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Posted 2015-April-28, 04:22

 Vampyr, on 2015-April-28, 03:15, said:

-- William Shakespeare, King John


Even so, "gild the lily" is a well known idiom...
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Posted 2015-April-28, 13:11

Yes and Andrew Robson even says "Don't Gild The Lily" in his matchpoints book.

Maybe it is more popular on that side of the pond.
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Posted 2015-April-28, 13:15

 42krunner, on 2015-April-28, 13:11, said:

Yes and Andrew Robson even says "Don't Gild The Lily" in his matchpoints book.

Maybe it is more popular on that side of the pond.


Maybe. I myself have always said paint the lily.
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Posted 2015-April-28, 14:21

There are a lot of references to the misquote. Google is your friend.

http://www.phrases.o...d-the-lily.html
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

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Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

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Posted 2015-April-28, 21:47

 lycier, on 2015-April-28, 01:39, said:

Actually 2♠ should be a playable contract.
Gib bidding 3♦ would be to gild the lily.

Regardless of which side of The Pond we're on, I have a more harsh opinion than OP does. To bid 2N over 2♠, and try to play 3m instead of 2♠, could reasonably be described as trying to gild the lily. Bidding 3♦, apparently non-forcing, is just bad when it could be opposite shortness.
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Posted 2015-April-29, 00:54

This is not even gilding the lily, it's just an awful call (i.e., worse than gilding the lily). Making a pass/correct on 2344 would be gilding the lily arguably. Or bidding 2♠ on a bad 6-card spade suit and 2 hearts after 1NT-2♥-p-.

edit: yikes, I just wrote the exact same thing as Bbradley above! leaving this comment here to serve as a reminder: stay in school! literacy is important!
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Posted 2015-April-29, 01:35

 Bbradley62, on 2015-April-28, 21:47, said:

Regardless of which side of The Pond we're on, I have a more harsh opinion than OP does. To bid 2N over 2♠, and try to play 3m instead of 2♠, could reasonably be described as trying to gild the lily. Bidding 3♦, apparently non-forcing, is just bad when it could be opposite shortness.


I agree,maybe this is a better approach.
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Posted 2015-April-29, 07:18

 Bbradley62, on 2015-April-28, 21:47, said:

Regardless of which side of The Pond we're on, I have a more harsh opinion than OP does. To bid 2N over 2♠, and try to play 3m instead of 2♠, could reasonably be described as trying to gild the lily. Bidding 3♦, apparently non-forcing, is just bad when it could be opposite shortness.


Strangely I played a similar hand today,and it seems that BBO have fixed this issue at once,now look at my hand ,its bidding is same with you:

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Posted 2015-April-29, 07:29

North (just) lacks the 14-20 total points promised to take action similar to the opening hand. Although why that should matter ....
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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