[nige1]

On the official website, the Butlers are confusing. The open-B butler features only 2 Italian pairs. In the Seniors B-final, the Butlers seem to be the same as in the A-final. Firefox on my old netbook struggles with bulletin pdfs -- but Is there a bulletin or other source with more complete Butler information?

[MickyB]

The link is just wrong for the seniors B-Final - http://www.eurobridg...e/ButlerSFB.htm

[MickyB]

No other Italian pair played enough boards to be included on the butler.

Cima-Sementa 64 boards played
Sementa-Versace 32
Cima-Giubilo 64
Giubulo-Sementa 32

[jallerton]

If you want to see a list including pairs who played fewer boards, try this link which someone referred to during last weekend's vugraph commentary.

If you want to see a ranking list of how well each pair played then hard luck, it does not exist.

[nige1]

Thank you MickyB and JAllerton. John Matheson and Paul Gibson have devised formulae that iterate to an "adjusted" Butler, taking into account opponents' apparent calibre -- still a crude measure of performance but I find them interesting.

[helene_t]

nige1, on 2014-July-01, 20:47, said:

John Matheson and Paul Gibson have devised formulae that iterate to an "adjusted" Butler, taking into account opponents' apparent calibre

Are those numbers available somewhere?

[paulg]

helene_t, on 2014-July-02, 08:14, said:

Are those numbers available somewhere?

No. I've not done such adjustments for a few years since I believed it was giving credence to meaningless numbers, especially as it was normally for the Camrose where there are only six teams with quite a difference in standard between them.