[blackshoe]

 barmar, on 2014-January-31, 10:15, said:

It's a waste of time to ask "Why do we have a law against X when we don't have a law against Y, which is more serious?" You can also find many instances where the punishment for one crime is more severe than for some other crime that's obviously more serious. When lawmakers are debating a particular law, or the punishment for a crime, do you seriously think that they have a chart of all the other laws on the books, so they can determine where it fits in the spectrum? Laws are enacted in a context where they're just thinking about that particular circumstance -- trying to make all the laws consistent would be an impossible task (you think we have a do-nothing Congress now, imagine if they had this constraint on them as well).

I kind of liked an idea of Hayek's: a bicameral legislature, the job of the lower house to make laws, the job of the upper house to unmake them.

[blackshoe]

 barmar, on 2014-January-30, 10:19, said:

I delibately avoided using a gun analogy to avoid inevitable replies like this, or a tangent on how the 2nd Amendment would protect them.

Don't blame me. I was replying to Zel; blame him.

[blackshoe]

 onoway, on 2014-January-31, 19:38, said:

It would seem that it's perfectly legal to buy whatever sort of weapon you can afford intending to (illegally) shoot however many Americans you can manage to hit as long as you do it in the U.S.

What utter nonsense. Shooting someone illegally is not the issue - that is already handled by existing laws. Shooting somebody legally should not be prevented by the government. Self defense is a natural right.

[akwoo]

 blackshoe, on 2014-February-02, 16:18, said:

What utter nonsense. Shooting someone illegally is not the issue - that is already handled by existing laws. Shooting somebody legally should not be prevented by the government. Self defense is a natural right.

And the utmost restraint in exercising this right is a natural duty.

[Vampyr]

Well, I live in a country that had .04 gun homicides per 100,000 people in 2010, and the US had 3.6 in 2011. I don't think it's a stretch to say it is pretty clear which country's gun control laws are better.

I got these figures from Wikipedia; sorry I cannot provide a link. I do not know how to cut and paste my mini iPad.

Edit: can do it now.

[mike777]

 Vampyr, on 2014-February-02, 23:38, said:

Well, I live in a country that had .04 gun homicides per 100,000 people in 2010, and the US had 3.6 in 2011. I don't think it's a stretch to say it is pretty clear which country's gun control laws are better.

I got these figures from Wikipedia; sorry I cannot provide a link. I do not know how to cut and paste my mini iPad.

Edit: can do it now.

if the measure is deaths by gun....you make a very strong point...if the measure is other then not.

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Clearly the measure is not death by gun is rated most important.


In the USA the measure in unclear but it is not guns by death.


I wish you would discuss what measure is best but you never do.

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Vamp let me put this out since your posts seem not to understand this.


Death by guns is not the most important issue in usa.

[Vampyr]

 mike777, on 2014-February-03, 00:14, said:

Death by guns is not the most important issue in usa.

I am sure you are right. Why are you addressing this comment to me?

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[dustinst22]

 Vampyr, on 2014-February-02, 23:38, said:

Well, I live in a country that had .04 gun homicides per 100,000 people in 2010, and the US had 3.6 in 2011. I don't think it's a stretch to say it is pretty clear which country's gun control laws are better.

I got these figures from Wikipedia; sorry I cannot provide a link. I do not know how to cut and paste my mini iPad.

Edit: can do it now.

Except that you're making a logical fallacy here. There could be (likely are) many reasons (other than the current gun laws) the homicide rate is lower. There are many instances and examples of areas that have liberal gun laws with a low homicide rate (and vice versa). Switzerland comes to mind. I very much doubt tighter gun control in the states would have a drastic impact on the homicide rate.

[hrothgar]

 dustinst22, on 2014-February-25, 12:59, said:

Except that you're making a logical fallacy here. There could be (likely are) many reasons (other than the current gun laws) the homicide rate is lower. There are many instances and examples of areas that have liberal gun laws with a low homicide rate (and vice versa). Switzerland comes to mind. I very much doubt tighter gun control in the states would have a drastic impact on the homicide rate.

The gun laws in Switzerland can hardly be called liberal.

Yes, swiss men need to keep long arms in their houses.
Yes, they need to practice with these weapons.
However, the restrictions on ammunition are extremely strict, as are the regulations regarding carrying weapons in public.

There is no comparison between this and the conceal carry madness we have going on in the US, nor the legal structures down south that let whites gun down blacks with near impunity.

[dustinst22]

 hrothgar, on 2014-February-25, 13:29, said:

The gun laws in Switzerland can hardly be called liberal.

Yes, swiss men need to keep long arms in their houses.
Yes, they need to practice with these weapons.
However, the restrictions on ammunition are extremely strict, as are the regulations regarding carrying weapons in public.

There is no comparison between this and the conceal carry madness we have going on in the US, nor the legal structures down south that let whites gun down blacks with near impunity.

Was just throwing out one example. There are many countries with high gun ownership (i.e. Germany, Norway, Finland, France, Denmark) with relatively low murder rates. Then there are countries with an outright ban on firearms (Soviet Union) where the murder rate remains astronomical (people just find other weapons to use, or find illegal methods of obtaining firearms). There doesn't appear to be a definitive correlation between the rate of gun ownership and the murder rate.

[onoway]

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