[mgoetze]

National mixed pairs championship, the best tournament directors in the country are directing. Former long-time member of the national open team and current member of the national seniors team Dr. E and his partner are playing against a very bad pair. The very bad pair have a horrible auction but stumble into a making slam. Dr. E calls the tournament director; after conferring, the TDs rule that the opponents were not able to make use of UI and simple got lucky, table result stands. Dr. E appeals and gets a revised ruling in his favour.

After the prize-giving, Dr. E grabs the microphone to tell everyone what an egregiously bad decision was made against him, as proven by the decision of the appeals committee [as a matter of fact, a number of international TDs consulted afterwards stated they would uphold the original ruling] and declared that he never intended again to attend a tournament run by (naming them specifically) tournament director Dr. B or tournament director Mr. E [naturally, he did not follow through on this].

What do you think of Dr. E's behaviour and which sanctions would you consider appropriate?

[hrothgar]

mgoetze, on 2013-August-31, 08:18, said:

What do you think of Dr. E's behaviour and which sanctions would you consider appropriate?

I think that his behavior is atrocious.

With this said and done, I wouldn't formally sanction him for making a speech that I don't happen to like.

[ArtK78]

Dr. E should be subject to some sort of sanction as he publicly impugned the competence of the national tournament directors at the awards ceremony. Quite frankly, even if he were right, his action should be subject to sanction.

Here, such a sanction would be handled by a conduct and ethics committee. I can only assume that your bridge organization has a similar body.

[Cyberyeti]

He gets a sanction for unauthorised grabbing of the microphone.

I also think it would have been karma if said directors had refused to direct him when he broke his word.

[PhilKing]

In before lock ...

I have happy memories from Beijing when they raised the white flag halway through the set. And I once ruled against him in committee three times in one tourney.

[mgoetze]

ArtK78, on 2013-August-31, 10:40, said:

Here, such a sanction would be handled by a conduct and ethics committee. I can only assume that your bridge organization has a similar body.

Of course it does. My question was, however, not what they should rule according to their regulations, but what type of sanction you would consider appropriate, if any.

[gnasher]

mgoetze, on 2013-August-31, 15:56, said:

Of course it does. My question was, however, not what they should rule according to their regulations, but what type of sanction you would consider appropriate, if any.

What type of sanction is easy: a ban from playing in all bridge events in Germany for some period. The length of the ban would depend on how offensive his behaviour was, how apologetic he was afterwards, any mitigating circumstances *, and any previous misbehaviour. In some circumstances it might be appropriate to impose a suspended sentence.

* Having been given a bad ruling isn't a mitigating circumstance, regardless of how bad it was.

[PhilKing]

The punishment should definitely involve the microphone in some way.

[blackshoe]

PhilKing, on 2013-August-31, 16:23, said:

The punishment should definitely involve the microphone in some way.

I don't think it'll fit.

[ArtK78]

blackshoe, on 2013-August-31, 19:04, said:

I don't think it'll fit.

It depends on exactly how big an a****le he is.

[barmar]

gnasher, on 2013-August-31, 16:12, said:

* Having been given a bad ruling isn't a mitigating circumstance, regardless of how bad it was.

The only potential mitigating circumstance I can think of would be if there had been celebratory drinking before the award ceremony. Being drunk lowers inhibitions and makes outbursts like this more likely and slightly more forgivable.

[PhilKing]

http://www.eventprop...one_prop_01.jpg

And this article struck a chord:

http://www.fulviofan...ys-pay-off.html

[cherdano]

PhilKing, on 2013-August-31, 15:46, said:

And I once ruled against him in committee three times in one tourney.

I know people who will want to fly you in for every tournament they are playing...

[nige1]

mgoetze, on 2013-August-31, 08:18, said:

National mixed pairs championship, the best tournament directors in the country are directing. Former long-time member of the national open team and current member of the national seniors team Dr. E and his partner are playing against a very bad pair. The very bad pair have a horrible auction but stumble into a making slam. Dr. E calls the tournament director; after conferring, the TDs rule that the opponents were not able to make use of UI and simple got lucky, table result stands. Dr. E appeals and gets a revised ruling in his favour.
After the prize-giving, Dr. E grabs the microphone to tell everyone what an egregiously bad decision was made against him, as proven by the decision of the appeals committee [as a matter of fact, a number of international TDs consulted afterwards stated they would uphold the original ruling] and declared that he never intended again to attend a tournament run by (naming them specifically) tournament director Dr. B or tournament director Mr. E [naturally, he did not follow through on this].
What do you think of Dr. E's behaviour and which sanctions would you consider appropriate?

PhilKing, on 2013-September-01, 10:01, said:

http://www.eventprop...one_prop_01.jpg And this article struck a chord:
http://www.fulviofan...ys-pay-off.html

Mgoetze, please post the case to the laws forum.

[Cyberyeti]

PhilKing, on 2013-September-01, 10:01, said:

http://www.fulviofan...ys-pay-off.html

Epic typo in the last line of the first page, have played some people for whom it would be quite apt.

[mgoetze]

nige1, on 2013-September-01, 11:57, said:

Mgoetze, please post the case to the laws forum.

Sorry, but I have seen more than enough discussion of it and really don't consider it that interesting. Furthermore I completely agree with those who say it doesn't matter whether the ruling was actually bad or not.

Quick summary: 2♥*-p-p-2♠; 3NT-p-4♥-p; 6♥-p-p-p. 2♥ was alerted as hearts and a minor, weak and there were some hesitations. 6♥ was a pretty bad contract but happens to make on the lie of the cards. TL ruled result stands, committee adjusted to 4♥+2.

[andrei]

We should congratulate Dr E. for winning Bermuda Bowl

I wanted to ask if "E" is coming from the first or last name of the person in question, but the link posted by PhilKing seems to clarify this.

I've watched some of the 5th set from seniors BB final, through live stream, and Dr. (first name) E was acting like crazy towards the end of the set whenever the americans were thinking.

[mycroft]

"I'm sorry to inform you that I'm directing this tournament, and as such, can not allow you to break your word, or take your money. Have a nice day."

Well, that's what I'd *want* to be able to do.

[PhilKing]

andrei, on 2013-September-30, 10:57, said:

We should congratulate Dr E. for winning Bermuda Bowl

I wanted to ask if "E" is coming from the first or last name of the person in question, but the link posted by PhilKing seems to clarify this.

I've watched some of the 5th set from seniors BB final, through live stream, and Dr. (first name) E was acting like crazy towards the end of the set whenever the americans were thinking.

I was wrong about that, apparently.

[aguahombre]

ArtK78, on 2013-August-31, 10:40, said:

Here, such a sanction would be handled by a conduct and ethics committee. I can only assume that your bridge organization has a similar body.

mgoetze, on 2013-August-31, 15:56, said:

Of course it does. My question was, however, not what they should rule according to their regulations, but what type of sanction you would consider appropriate, if any.

I think Art did the best he could sans a working knowledge of the German organization's tools and structure. Their C/E committe might also have a documented history with this player to consider and increase the sanction.

Most severe sanction available would be appropriate, IMO...including the appropriate placement of the Microphone if provided for in the regs.