[niki98]

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You are dealt a beauty in second seat, South preempts with 2♥, both vul. What do you bid with West's hand? Then, what do you bid with North's hand over West's interruption?

[ArtK78]

I would just bid 4♠ on the West hand. Bidding 4♣ so show spades and clubs doesn't appeal to me, as I really want to play in 4♠. Of course, if partner has zero or one spades and a big club fit, a club slam could be cold.

As for the North hand, that is a headache. Pass, Double, 5♦, 5♥ - they could all be right. Looking at the West hand, though, it seems that pass by North is the winning action.

[rhm]

ArtK78, on 2013-April-16, 14:14, said:

I would just bid 4♠ on the West hand. Bidding 4♣ so show spades and clubs doesn't appeal to me, as I really want to play in 4♠. Of course, if partner has zero or one spades and a big club fit, a club slam could be cold.

As for the North hand, that is a headache. Pass, Double, 5♦, 5♥ - they could all be right. Looking at the West hand, though, it seems that pass by North is the winning action.

Looking at the North hand makes 4♠ certainly the right bid for West.

Rainer Herrmann

[Zelandakh]

Art, you hold
♠Q984
♥AK
♦AKQJT98
♣-

and the auction beginning on your left runs
(2♥) - 4♠ - (P). What do you bid?

The problem with bidding 4♠ is that it does not just say "I want to play there", it also shows a big hand.

[cherdano]

The first rule about bidding freak hands is to always cater for the possibility of partner having 17 hcp opposite my two voids (one of which is RHO's preempt suit).

[Antrax]

Well, partner's HCP, whatever they are, rate to be in my voids. Not sure partner, when considering what hand I bid 4♠ over 2♥ with, knows he should consider 7=0=0=6 with a weak spade suit.

[Cyberyeti]

Zelandakh, on 2013-April-17, 02:46, said:

Art, you hold
♠Q984
♥AK
♦AKQJT98
♣-

and the auction beginning on your left runs
(2♥) - 4♠ - (P). What do you bid?

The problem with bidding 4♠ is that it does not just say "I want to play there", it also shows a big hand.

5N GSF WTP, 6 is a touch over 50%, exchange the 4♠ for the Q♥ and he has a bigger problem.

[MrAce]

cherdano, on 2013-April-17, 02:49, said:

The first rule about bidding freak hands is to always cater for the possibility of partner having 17 hcp opposite my two voids (one of which is RHO's preempt suit).

You are gonna kill me one day in front of my pc.

I was one of the players in BBO juniors and my pd held this hand. She bid 4♣ they bid 4♦, i passed, preempter bid 5♦ and my pd bid 5♠ with this, of course they doubled, i will not say the outcome for the sake of topic.

[Antrax]

MrAce, on 2013-April-18, 00:37, said:

You are gonna kill me one day in front of my pc.

It's funny, yes, but seriously, there are four AKs in our void vs. only two in our suit, why isn't it likely partner's AKs are wasted? Is there some overriding consideration from the opponent bidding?

[gszes]

Zelandakh, on 2013-April-17, 02:46, said:

Art, you hold
♠Q984
♥AK
♦AKQJT98
♣-

and the auction beginning on your left runs
(2♥) - 4♠ - (P). What do you bid?

The problem with bidding 4♠ is that it does not just say "I want to play there", it also shows a big hand.

There is a bit more room for bidding when our suit is spades vs hearts. (2h3s) (3h 4s) (2s 4h) all show big hands
because of the jump over the preempt. But 2h 4s leaves some lattitude for the 4s bidder the have a much weaker
hand that still desires game. and over 2h 4s the monster hand presented would just bid 5n and go down 1 (in 6s)
when the opps had the spade AK (unfortunate).

On the given hand however i still prefer 4c showing clubs and spades since the clubs are so much better than the
spades and slam is still possible in clubs even when 6s has no chance. Spades is indeed our most likely game
but clubs very easily can be our most likely slam.

[niki98]

MrAce, on 2013-April-18, 00:37, said:

You are gonna kill me one day in front of my pc.

I was one of the players in BBO juniors and my pd held this hand. She bid 4♣ they bid 4♦, i passed, preempter bid 5♦ and my pd bid 5♠ with this, of course they doubled, i will not say the outcome for the sake of topic.

I think it is pretty much time to say the outcome.

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I must admit that now I disagree with my bid of 3♥ but that's what happened at the table and 4♠x+1 was the score which was mostly seen on all the tables.