[blackshoe]

 phil_20686, on 2012-November-16, 08:35, said:

You realise that the move is meant to be a parody right?

That's not what Verhoeven said back when it came out. I think he latched onto the "parody" claim later, when it became clear how much Heinlein fans hated the movie — and more importantly, when it became clear how much derision was to be heaped on it.

[blackshoe]

BTW, Tom Cruise is no Jack Reacher. For one thing he's almost a foot too short.

[Scarabin]

 Fluffy, on 2012-November-15, 16:46, said:

It doesn't matter wich one, but the one I see first will look wonderful compared to the second one, no matter if its the remake or the original.

I started watching "The Killing" wich was fine, but then my wife wanted to see the original, and I knew I rather go away and do something else.

This seems true for me also. I've been racking my brains trying to find an exception. Nearest I could remember is "Girl with a dragon tattoo": I watched part of the original (actually called Men who hate women) and stopped, put off by the sex. Later watched (the remainder) of the remake, to see how it ended, and found I disliked both equally.

Slainte,

Ian

[mike777]

The killing?

just to be clear we are talking about hayden movie?

famous movie for movie buffs.....guys

stanley kubrik..you heard of him?

[Scarabin]

Cannot answer for Fluffy, but I was referring to a TV series: Danish original called "Forbrydelsen", remade as "The Killing" for US TV. Danish version distributed in Europe, etc, with sub-titles.

But you knew this and were just taking the p---, right?

Slainte,

Ian

[mike777]

 Scarabin, on 2012-November-17, 00:13, said:

Cannot answer for Fluffy, but I was referring to a TV series: Danish original called "Forbrydelsen", remade as "The Killing" for US TV. Danish version distributed in Europe, etc, with sub-titles.

But you knew this and were just taking the p---, right?

Slainte,

Ian

lol see 1946 and get back to me...

this is the remake thread ..right?

If you are going to claim plot is new..fresh then prove it...in the remake thread...


granted we all are cannibals so..I relax my claim for fun....

see my above threads

[kenberg]

 Scarabin, on 2012-November-16, 21:19, said:

This seems true for me also. I've been racking my brains trying to find an exception. Nearest I could remember is "Girl with a dragon tattoo": I watched part of the original (actually called Men who hate women) and stopped, put off by the sex. Later watched (the remainder) of the remake, to see how it ended, and found I disliked both equally.

Slainte,

Ian

Help me out here. I read the novel, saw the Swedish movie, saw the American movie. Each quite different in some ways although of course the story remains the same. When you speak of the two movie versions, you are referring to the Swedish and the American ones?

Anyway, I thought the portrayal of Lisbeth in the Swedish version was superb. My wife was sufficiently impressed that she has no interest in seeing any other movie version. We both liked the book although I thought some editing was needed in places. Because of the death of the author, I can imagine them deciding to just publish it as is, out of respect.

I can well imagine being put off by the brutality of some of sex. My rule is that if you are going do brutality at anything approaching that level you also had better be making a damn good movie since I don't watch brutality for the fun of it. In this case I though both versions succeeded.

[Scarabin]

 mike777, on 2012-November-17, 00:30, said:

lol see 1946 and get back to me...

this is the remake thread ..right?

If you are going to claim plot is new..fresh then prove it...in the remake thread...


granted we all are cannibals so..I relax my claim for fun....

see my above threads

Far as I can judge, no connection with Sterling Hayden movie.

"Forbrydelsen" has a fairly basic mystery plot: girl disappears, family distraught, vulnerable police officers pursue interesting suspects at great personal cost and despite constant opposition in flawed world.

For me it's distinguished by good characterisation, acting and atmosphere.

[Scarabin]

 kenberg, on 2012-November-17, 13:38, said:

Help me out here. I read the novel, saw the Swedish movie, saw the American movie. Each quite different in some ways although of course the story remains the same. When you speak of the two movie versions, you are referring to the Swedish and the American ones?

Yes the Swedish and American movies.

Anyway, I thought the portrayal of Lisbeth in the Swedish version was superb. My wife was sufficiently impressed that she has no interest in seeing any other movie version. We both liked the book although I thought some editing was needed in places. Because of the death of the author, I can imagine them deciding to just publish it as is, out of respect.

Agreed, Rapace's portrayal of Lisbeth is strangely fascinating. I have not read the book although i have seen "Girl who played with fire" and "Girl who kicked the Hornet's Nest".
In "GWTDT" I found the initial mystery intriguing but guessed that Harriet was alive at some early stage. I found the resolution fairly pedestrian and as I said the sadism put me off. Why did I persist with the other two volumes of the trilogy? Actually I saw the first part of GWTDT, then GWPWF, next GWKHN, and finally the remainder of GWTDT.


I can well imagine being put off by the brutality of some of sex. My rule is that if you are going do brutality at anything approaching that level you also had better be making a damn good movie since I don't watch brutality for the fun of it. In this case I though both versions succeeded.

Wikipaedia has interesting articles on Stieg Larsson and GWTDT.

Slainte

Ian

This post has been edited by Scarabin: 2012-November-18, 05:10

[paulg]

 Scarabin, on 2012-November-18, 00:40, said:

"Forbrydelsen" has a fairly basic mystery plot: girl disappears, family distraught, vulnerable police officers pursue interesting suspects at great personal cost and despite constant opposition in flawed world.

For me it's distinguished by good characterisation, acting and atmosphere.

And sweaters. <plot_spoiler>Zigzags in The Killing III which started last night in the UK</plot_spoiler>

[Scarabin]

 paulg, on 2012-November-18, 02:51, said:

And sweaters. <plot_spoiler>Zigzags in The Killing III which started last night in the UK</plot_spoiler>

Thanks for info, will watch for arrival down umder.

Slainte,

Ian

[Scarabin]

Back to Homeland, our local foreign language TV channel is showing the first season of "Prisoners of war", the Israeli "original" of Homeland.

I have realised the reason I enjoy it is that it really forces you to identify with the POW's & their families. Does Homeland compare on this aspect?

[Fluffy]

 Scarabin, on 2012-November-17, 00:13, said:

Cannot answer for Fluffy, but I was referring to a TV series: Danish original called "Forbrydelsen", remade as "The Killing" for US TV. Danish version distributed in Europe, etc, with sub-titles.

But you knew this and were just taking the p---, right?

Slainte,

Ian

You were right.

[Scarabin]

Saw "House of cards",the US - Kevin Spacey version, the other day and judged it better than the UK version; which I think is the original although no acknowledgement is made.

"Forbrydelsen III" has not reached Australia, although we have got a political series "Brogen" made by the same people (producers not cast). I like it; reminiscent of the sub-thread in "Forbrydelsen I"