[gwnn]

AK9xx
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xxx
AKJxx

2D*-2H
3H!?

2D was multi (w/2 in a major or 20-21 bal), MP, all red.

[kayin801]

If partner is crazy they have 7 hearts for their weak 2 and are doing something crazy.

If partner is normal 20-21 balanced w/ 5-6 hearts.

[Quantumcat]

kayin801, on 2012-September-05, 17:56, said:

If partner is normal 20-21 balanced w/ 5-6 hearts.

Wouldn't call partner with 5-6 hearts normal, with six he should have either opened 1♥ or 2♣ and rebid hearts. With five hearts he should bid 2NT and await puppet/muppet stayman.

Could be he forgot how to play multis, the people at my club playing multis don;t actually know how to play them, they bid 2♠ in response to 2♦ when they have five or more spades. Maybe this person was making even bigger mistakes than this, and thought 2♥ showed hearts, and he had a six card spade suit and three hearts?

[the hog]

This auction does not exist, even playing a strong inclusion in your Multi. This is not a person with whom I want to play. I would bid 7H and then find a new partner.

[lalldonn]

the hog, on 2012-September-05, 18:23, said:

This auction does not exist, even playing a strong inclusion in your Multi. This is not a person with whom I want to play. I would bid 7H and then find a new partner.

Nystrom and Upmark bid 2♦ pass 2♠ pass 3♠ to show a strong hand with diamonds plus spades, KQJx AK AKQJxx x (page 7). So I would say this bid probably exists as well, and for people with whom I would want to play.

[nigel_k]

If they're bad, probably they have a weak two and just don't understand how to bid after a nulti. If they're not bad, I would assume they initially missorted their hand and probably found an extra small heart. They should not do this with 20-21 and expect me to figure that out.

[kenrexford]

nigel_k, on 2012-September-05, 19:53, said:

If they're bad, probably they have a weak two and just don't understand how to bid after a nulti.

Or, maybe the are playing Nolte, which is entirely consistent.

[the hog]

lalldonn, on 2012-September-05, 18:40, said:

Nystrom and Upmark bid 2♦ pass 2♠ pass 3♠ to show a strong hand with diamonds plus spades, KQJx AK AKQJxx x (page 7). So I would say this bid probably exists as well, and for people with whom I would want to play.

No. Have you read the op. This strong option is NOT part of their system, as the only strong option they play is a strong balanced hand. In that system the bid does not exist and the player is either operating or has forgotten the system or is a fool. In all three cases I would not want that person as my partner. If I were playing the Nystrom Upmark version, then my bid WOULD have some meaning, wouldn't it? However according to the poster I am NOT playing that version.

[gwnn]

I promise he doesn't have 20-21 bal or 22+ with hearts. I would never bid like this but, well, my partner did, would you pass or bid 4H (or something else)?

[wank]

my guess is he's got both majors. 65 or something. but obv you need a psychologist to properly delve into the mind of a mad man.

[Cyberyeti]

If I had to guess, it would be that he forgot he was playing a multi and is now being ethical presuming you bid 2♥ in response to what he actually meant by 2♦.

This however shouldn't influence your decision, and I think you can do what you like as this bid doesn't exist in your multi unless you've specifically agreed something for it.

[gwnn]

He had
x
AQT98x
xx
QT9x

I raised to 4♥ and took 10 tricks on a spade lead (diamond discard, club to queen, lose two hearts while keeping control and being glad that clubs were 2-2). My RHO now knows that it's a good idea to show his 6-card solid minor. I promise my 2♥ was completely in tempo, but anyway if we wanted to cheat we would find better contracts than this.

[the_clown]

I may open 3♥ on this if fav, but after having opened 2♦ bidding again is insane.

[Cyberyeti]

the_clown, on 2012-September-07, 02:29, said:

I may open 3♥ on this if fav, but after having opened 2♦ bidding again is insane.

With all the intermediates in the long suits, I'd probably treat this as a 9 or 10 count and open 1♥.

[dake50]

3H? Get above their Spades coming in easy.
Oops, this hand you have spades and strong. Bid 4H.

[mikestar13]

the_clown, on 2012-September-07, 02:29, said:

I may open 3♥ on this if fav, but after having opened 2♦ bidding again is insane.

I'd consider 3♥ even at equal, but would surely pass 2♥ if I had opened a multi. Preempt as high as you dare, then shut up. The perpetrator really needs to learn paradox bids (Chris Ryall's webite is a good source.)