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What do you open? SAYC

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Posted 2011-October-06, 21:31

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Posted 2011-October-07, 00:34

View Postnige1, on 2011-August-30, 21:01, said:

2N = 10, _P = 9. (Playing 2/1 you probably open 1♣. Given Hanoi's understandings, however, you open a systemic 2N).

Pass with 21HCP = 9 ??? LOL
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Posted 2011-October-07, 00:42

View Postmike777, on 2011-August-20, 11:24, said:

2nt scattered hcp.

I dont want to open 1c and have to jump shift into spades and a 1s rebid is NOT forcing.


Not forcing for YOU, Mike. It is certainly forcing for me.
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Posted 2011-October-07, 08:59

View PostHanoi5, on 2011-August-18, 05:17, said:

You play 12-20 1-level openings, 21-23 2NT and FG 2♣...
If this is what you play, you should stop saying that you play SAYC (indicated in the subheading of this thread). You play some customized version of Standard American, but not SAYC.
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Posted 2011-October-07, 09:19

View Postnige1, on 2011-August-30, 21:01, said:

2N = 10, _P = 9. (Playing 2/1 you probably open 1♣. Given Hanoi's understandings, however, you open a systemic 2N).



Pass=9? Can I have some of what you're smoking?

ps. I open 1♣
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Posted 2011-October-07, 11:14

View Postmanudude03, on 2011-October-07, 09:19, said:

Pass=9? Can I have some of what you're smoking? ps. I open 1♣
For Hanoi, 1♣ would be deviation from system. His main systemic choices are 2N and Pass. If, systemically, 2N requires a balanced hand then Pass may be his best systemic option. :ph34r:
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Posted 2011-October-07, 22:13

mike777 said:

2nt scattered hcp.

I dont want to open 1c and have to jump shift into spades and a 1s rebid is NOT forcing.


View Postthe hog, on 2011-October-07, 00:42, said:

Not forcing for YOU, Mike. It is certainly forcing for me.


Is this a common agreement in Standard American?
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Posted 2011-October-08, 00:03

View Postthe hog, on 2011-October-07, 00:42, said:

Not forcing for YOU, Mike. It is certainly forcing for me.

View PostVampyr, on 2011-October-07, 22:13, said:

Is this a common agreement in Standard American?

I don't think Mr. Hog is representing Standard American. He is talking about your choice that something is not forcing, which is different from his.

I do think that not-forcing for a 1S rebid is much more common than his (mine). I expect partner will take another bid after 1/1/1, and will rebid 1S on some damn good hands which are too balanced for a jump shift in our style (rather than rebid 2NT). But it is still o.k. if she dug up a response from crapsville and passes.

This post has been edited by aguahombre: 2011-October-08, 00:11

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Posted 2011-October-08, 01:05

Given the agreements in the OP, I open 2NT unless partner will have a fit because I have a singleton. In that case, I open 1♣, planning to JS or reverse, or possibly splinter in ♦ over 1♠, if partner understands splinters.
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