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Playing 12-14 1NT, you have the following auction
1♣-(p)-p-(1♥)
What should the following rebids by opener mean?
X:
1S:
1NT:
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weak NT and an interesting rebid
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Posted 2011-August-17, 07:24
I don't believe that they should have any different meaning than if you played a strong NT; i.e., x is for takeout, 1NT shows 18-19 or so balanced, 1♠ shows an unbalanced hand with clubs and spades.
With a strong NT opener, opener should pass over 1♥.
With a strong NT opener, opener should pass over 1♥.
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Posted 2011-August-17, 07:26
ArtK78, on 2011-August-17, 07:24, said:
I don't believe that they should have any different meaning than if you played a strong NT; i.e., x is for takeout, 1NT shows 18-19 or so balanced, 1♠ shows an unbalanced hand with clubs and spades.
Well, I'm sure you could stretch the 1NT down to, say, 16.5-19, but otherwise, agree completely.
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Posted 2011-August-17, 07:39
I think one difference from a strong NT system is that double will include some 15-17 balanced hands with not a lot in hearts.
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Posted 2011-August-17, 08:25
gwnn, on 2011-August-17, 07:39, said:
I think one difference from a strong NT system is that double will include some 15-17 balanced hands with not a lot in hearts.
Doesn't double also have to show the 15-17 balanced with heart stoppers? We can't bid 1NT here as that is (should be) 18-19, unless we really stretch this to be 15-19, but I really don't want to play 1NT with 15 opposite 0.
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Posted 2011-August-17, 09:37
1S 4-4+ in the black suits, solid opening bid
X takeout
1NT 16 (brrrrrr, with 10+9's)-20 + H stopper
X takeout
1NT 16 (brrrrrr, with 10+9's)-20 + H stopper
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Posted 2011-August-17, 10:12
dcohio, on 2011-August-17, 08:25, said:
Doesn't double also have to show the 15-17 balanced with heart stoppers? We can't bid 1NT here as that is (should be) 18-19, unless we really stretch this to be 15-19, but I really don't want to play 1NT with 15 opposite 0.
I think with good heart values it's a good idea to pass some 15-17 hands and bid 1NT with some 17's.
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Posted 2011-August-20, 01:19
gwnn, on 2011-August-17, 10:12, said:
I think with good heart values it's a good idea to pass some 15-17 hands and bid 1NT with some 17's.
Agree - when you have values in the opponent's suit, you think about defending, plus when you have not enough for game and a misfit, you get out of the auction ASAP. Both of these apply here! Plus the fact that with 15-17 and a passed partner, you may not even have enough HCP to be in a partscore safely without a proper fit.
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