[rduran1216]

I will post the second half of this problem once we reach a consensus on the first decision.

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What now?

[Cascade]

3♦ Standard limit bid.

[mike777]

edit misread the hand.
2c

[l milne]

11000 posts? 1♦??

I think it's close between 3♦ and 2♣ FWIW.

[mich-b]

I would consider my hand worth a GF , and start with 2♣ hoping to sort out later which game is better : 5♦, 3NT , or even 4♠.

[JLOGIC]

2C, we might get overboard but 2D is just too wimpy imo. Even if partner has a 4423 12 count or 4432 11 count we know where all the high cards are and have a source of tricks and might make a game on a good day, and he doesn't always have the worst possible hand! I think 2D will miss more good games than bad games it will get to, and there is the ole game bonus.

[Fluffy]

I'd bid 2♣, but certainly 3♦ is reasonable

[akhare]

rduran1216, on 2011-January-02, 22:06, said:

I will post the second half of this problem once we reach a consensus on the first decision.

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What now?

Unless pard has a chronic history of feather light TOXs, this looks like a GF to me, so 2♣...

[the hog]

2C for me also. This is a nice hand.

[whereagles]

These days people dbl on aceless 10-counts (pun intended lol), so 3♦ is just about right

[dake50]

I bid 2C->D, then 2S over 2H is just about right:
2 noises Diamond suit and some Spade stuff, no likey Hearts.

[mcphee]

Wow, what the hell happened to the H suit, I know someone has em. Question is, do we have a GF, and I think we do so would bid 2C. I Do not really see the problem.

[mfa1010]

2♣

mcphee, on 2011-January-03, 07:15, said:

Wow, what the hell happened to the H suit, I know someone has em.

Hearts are usually just 4441 or RHO is weak with 5+. Partner is still a big underdog to be strong with hearts but it could happen.

[pooltuna]

mcphee, on 2011-January-03, 07:15, said:

Wow, what the hell happened to the H suit, I know someone has em. Question is, do we have a GF, and I think we do so would bid 2C. I Do not really see the problem.

agree and IMO anything other than 2♣ is LOL but then I don't X with a 4441 ten count either.

[rduran1216]

ok, so over 2C it will continue with this spot

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vulnerability fixed, if this changes ur original 2C bid,....well i dont see how it could.

[Fluffy]

If partner has a low singleton club, he must have ♠K, ♦A, ♥AKQ and one or 2 of the red jacks.

I'd bid 6♦ now

EDIT: there is an overruff problem at trick 2 on any strain, it is very hard to know what to do, maybe just bidding 5♦ is better

[tolvyrj]

Ok i miss the first train in question, but i still try 2 answer the first round question. Tricky hand and i guess there r just bad choices and worse ones. 1D ok that is worst (ok pass is even worse), 2D is wimpy i agree, but it gives prd more room to bid his majors after 3D prd bids 3H and then what, 4C?. If we bid 3S over 3H prd raises us 2 moysian 4S with 3 card support, 3Nt is out of the question and 4C is only marginaly better.
2C creates GF situation and after auction 1C - Dbl- P we r far away from there. And back 2 the actual situation we bid 2C, LHO 3C and prd gave us just what we were asking 4H. What do i do now? Diamonds at any possible level r lottery, my prd has not promised any of them, ok he has diamonds but maybe just 2 of them, spades r also out of the question if pard has both majors he would have bid 4C. I pass and hope for the best, i havent lie a lot with my 2C bid, prd dont have many clubs and i have high cards in his side suits; my trump support aint good but he jumped single handly in 4H so he must have enough of them in case i have only doubleton. Of course in real world he guessed my 2C as forcing and asking for better major, in case i own my kidney to him.

[MrAce]

I will also reply to the first question.

2♣, of course. Even when i am % 100 sure pd doubled with 10 hcp and 4441. 10 hcp and no ace ? Fine, i will pay off.

Unless of course i am in "sissy contest" instead of team match.

[gnasher]

This is a new auction for me, but presumably partner has a strong one-suiter with self-supporting hearts. That might or might not include a singleton club, but if he has two clubs there's a good chance that my RHO is void. A club void on the right will also be helpful if it turns out that RHO has a trump trick.

Hence I bid Keycard and then slam in hearts, so as to keep the potential club void on lead.

[MrAce]

There are multiple things that doesnt add up for me in this bidding when i hear 4♥ from pd...

-What did 1♣ opener open with besides AKQJxx(x) ♣? If he has ♠ K we are in danger on ♠ lead unless pd has solid 7♥+ ♦ suit gives us more than just 3 tricks.

-If opener has ♦A, why did pd start with double ?

-Why is 1♣ opener still bidding in red vs white with only 7 tricks and nothing else, if thats only what he has ?

-Is pd jumping to 4♥ due to our cue or trying to show very strong hand, solid or semi solid ♥ ? If strong with solid ♥ suit, why didnt he go slam himself ? Can he have semi solid 8♥ and ♦ A only ?

I am totally confused, maybe i cant think atm, it is 3 am and tired.