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#1 User is offline   Cascade 

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Posted 2010-October-20, 12:31

(4) Dbl (Pass) 5

How do you play this?

4NT would be two places to play.
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Posted 2010-October-20, 13:19

2 possible choices I can see:

1) 5 is also 2 places to play, one of them being spades.
2) 5 is a slam try in spades WITH HEART CONTROL, while 5 would be ASKING for heart control.

I'd vote for the second option.
 
 
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Posted 2010-October-20, 13:25

Spades and a minor, slam try.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-October-20, 14:18

spade slam try with heart control.
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Posted 2010-October-20, 18:19

Ditto Gnasher.
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Posted 2010-October-20, 18:42

 Fluffy, on 2010-October-20, 14:18, said:

spade slam try with heart control.


+1

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Posted 2010-October-21, 03:52

Absent agreement, I'd take 5 the same way as bucky and others, and assume that all non-slam forcing two-suiters start with 4NT (possibly the slam forces, too). If advancer starts with 4NT, most people would treat 5 over doubler's 5m as offering a choice between 5 (or 6) and 6 of doubler's minor. I imagine an immediate 5 could be a try for grand in another strain, too.
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Posted 2010-October-21, 05:18

whatever you think this means, 4NT followed by 5 shows the other
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Posted 2010-October-21, 13:10

 Fluffy, on 2010-October-21, 05:18, said:

whatever you think this means, 4NT followed by 5 shows the other


Are there not three ways to get to 5

1. 5

2. 5

3. 4NT followed by 5
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Posted 2010-October-21, 13:17

 Cascade, on 2010-October-21, 13:10, said:

Are there not three ways to get to 5

1. 5

2. 5

3. 4NT followed by 5


For us it would be:

1. Slam try in , no heart control
2. Slam try in , with heart control
3. 2-suiter, +minor
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Posted 2010-October-21, 13:23

 mfa1010, on 2010-October-21, 13:17, said:

3. 2-suiter, +minor


five spades or only four?
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Posted 2010-October-21, 14:20

 Cascade, on 2010-October-21, 13:10, said:

Are there not three ways to get to 5

1. 5

2. 5

3. 4NT followed by 5

Sorry, should have specified, playing a jump to 5 showing lack of control is IMO expert standard, so that one is out, the other 2 might be switched and there are arguments for both, I think its easier to remember 4NT as 2 places to play and cuebid showing only 1 place, but maybe that's jsut me.
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