[ONEferBRID]

aguahombre, on Aug 30 2010, 02:16 PM, said:

There are many complicated auctions where 4NT might be confusing.  But when you have "4NT is never RKC for a minor", the world seems a simpler place.

I like that.
Up til now I've held the position that, at least in a GF auction, 4NT should never be RKC when a minor is agreed.

Edit... Here is a 2/1 GF auction for Kovacs :

♠ AKx
♥ AJx
♦ AJ8xxx
♣ J

♠ QJTx
♥ xx
♦ K
♣ AKQ8xx

1D - 2C! ( GF )
2D( 5+d, may have 4M) - 2S ( 4s )
2NT( no 4h or 4s) - 3C ( Opener hoping this shows 6c )
4C! ( Minorwood) - 4NT ( 4th step, 2 + cQ )
5D ( kickback for K's ) - 5NT ( dK but no hK or sK; which means no losing red tricks if Responder is 4s/6c )
7C ( hoping Diam no worse than 4-2 if stiff K... yielding 4 Diam tricks after 2 ruffs;
       2s, 1h, 4d, 6c ... also trumps no worse than 4-2 )

[benlessard]

With relay its.

1D-----1H (relay)
1NT (6D or 5D+4H 12-14)---------3C GF relay break show near solid suit +stiff/void in D
4C keyc------------------4NT (2 +Q no K of S)
5D (K of H ?) 5H (no)
6C------------Here responder knows we are not missing any keycards (opener made a look for 7) so opener hands should be around

A??
A??
AQxxxx
xx or J or better

or
AK?
A??
Axxxxx
xx or J or better


or

A
AQxx
Axxxxx
xx

So its seems like a good punt to bid 7C here.

[W Kovacs]

Disregard everything I wrote above. Apparently I have no idea how to count anymore. I thought East had 7 clubs, not 6

The listed auction would have worked if East had something like:

Qxx
xx
K
AKQxxxx

As the hand actually is, my partner and I reach 6NT, but don't even sniff at the Grand.

As an aside, get used to me making silly mistakes. I tend to type before I fully comprehend. Feel free to laugh at me and then move on; I'm used to it.

[ONEferBRID]

I thought I was the only one to make silly mistakes and typos .

[Codo]

ONEferBRID, on Sep 1 2010, 10:39 PM, said:

I thought I was the only one to make silly mistakes and typos .

You never walk alone....