I would imagine most would consider it inappropriate at a club game but what about high level tournaments? It probably shouldn't work against good opponents but would you consider it unethical to try it? I know I have no objection if an opponent tries it against me, I have nobody to blame but myself if it works. I could definitely understand it if top players are expected to do everything they can to bring in the results they are hired for. At the European Youth Pairs Championships last month the opponents tried this twice in total against us. The first time I was really confused about how my opponent had played the hand and it is only the next day I realised what he had tried to do. Would you do it in that kind of setting? Just so everyone knows, I'm not trying to settle any dispute or anything, just curious
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#1
Posted 2010-August-02, 05:54
Say you are declaring some random NT contract and you are running your long ♦ suit. You are quite a fast player and these opponents seem to be following your tempo. You see that your LHO already has his next small ♠ discard ready in his hand. You have Kx and Qxx left in ♠, in which you know for sure LHO has the Ace in addition to a bunch of ♥ winners because of his 1♥ opening. Would you ever make a random switch to a ♣ now for the sole purpose of hoping he revokes and gives you a penalty card (letting you cash ♠K)?
I would imagine most would consider it inappropriate at a club game but what about high level tournaments? It probably shouldn't work against good opponents but would you consider it unethical to try it? I know I have no objection if an opponent tries it against me, I have nobody to blame but myself if it works. I could definitely understand it if top players are expected to do everything they can to bring in the results they are hired for. At the European Youth Pairs Championships last month the opponents tried this twice in total against us. The first time I was really confused about how my opponent had played the hand and it is only the next day I realised what he had tried to do. Would you do it in that kind of setting? Just so everyone knows, I'm not trying to settle any dispute or anything, just curious
I would imagine most would consider it inappropriate at a club game but what about high level tournaments? It probably shouldn't work against good opponents but would you consider it unethical to try it? I know I have no objection if an opponent tries it against me, I have nobody to blame but myself if it works. I could definitely understand it if top players are expected to do everything they can to bring in the results they are hired for. At the European Youth Pairs Championships last month the opponents tried this twice in total against us. The first time I was really confused about how my opponent had played the hand and it is only the next day I realised what he had tried to do. Would you do it in that kind of setting? Just so everyone knows, I'm not trying to settle any dispute or anything, just curious
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#2
Posted 2010-August-02, 06:47
I don't think I'd do it. It doesn't seem appropriate. It's a little like watching opponent's hidden cards. Very misleading but in a 'physical' way, not mentally.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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#3
Posted 2010-August-02, 06:59
Colour coups work better if the suit you switch to is the same as the suit you're running. A switch between ♦ and ♥ will work best.
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#4
Posted 2010-August-02, 07:01
Only against a few select.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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#5
Posted 2010-August-02, 08:13
I'd do it against my friends at the club. Would maybe do it against people I strongly dislike (there are very few of them). Very interesting U-shaped graph.
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#6
Posted 2010-August-02, 11:00
gwnn, on Aug 2 2010, 09:13 AM, said:
I'd do it against my friends at the club. Would maybe do it against people I strongly dislike (there are very few of them). Very interesting U-shaped graph.
This reminds me of realising 3 tricks into the play that one of the defenders still has a card sitting in the board. You're in a bad 4H contract, getting a revoke might be your best chance of making it, play a normal line or play for the revoke ?
My thought process was like yours, and I thought the person concerned might eventually (through gritted teeth) see the funny side, so I successfully played for the revoke.
#7
Posted 2010-August-02, 11:08
Cyberyeti, on Aug 2 2010, 07:00 PM, said:
gwnn, on Aug 2 2010, 09:13 AM, said:
I'd do it against my friends at the club. Would maybe do it against people I strongly dislike (there are very few of them). Very interesting U-shaped graph.
This reminds me of realising 3 tricks into the play that one of the defenders still has a card sitting in the board. You're in a bad 4H contract, getting a revoke might be your best chance of making it, play a normal line or play for the revoke ?
My thought process was like yours, and I thought the person concerned might eventually (through gritted teeth) see the funny side, so I successfully played for the revoke.
WDP
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
_____________________________________
We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
_____________________________________
We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
#8
Posted 2010-August-02, 11:22
I think this is dirty pool.
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