[wank]

Scoring: IMP

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South passed as dealer.....contentious?

North opened 1S 3rd in (strong NT, 4cM)

east doubled

South bid 2C - not playing xfers here

west bid 2D

back to south who bid 3C

round to east who bid 3D

and that was it. -2 for +100 was poor compensation for a good and making vul 3NT. 5C also makes rather fortunately.....further question, if after however you bid it, west doubles 3NT would you run?

I don't know whether west would have doubled at our table, but we scored up with -1150.

[JLOGIC]

standard

[gnasher]

I'd open the South hand, but wouldn't insist on game with the North hand

[gszeszycki]

Dealer: South
Vul: N/S
Scoring: IMP
♠ AJxx
♥ KJx
♦ KTxx
♣ xx

♠ xx
♥ Qxxx
♦
♣ AQJxxxx

p p 1s x
2c 2d p p
3c p p 3d
p p p


before commenting on this hand how would the bidding proceed if S held say
x Qxxx x KJTxxxx

My guess is the bidding would proceed exactly as the auction shown and therein
lies the problem. The S hand is a very reasonable pass fearing a preemptive bid
would bury a heart fit but S did not do enough to try and differentiate between the actual hand held and the much weaker example hand i provided.

Assuming everyone is happy with a 2c bid (which I am not) the very least S could do is bid 2h vs 3c. This bid would at least show a much better club suit and at the same time give N a clue as to why S didnt open with say 3c right away (fear of missing a heart fit) this bidding might show a hand similar to x Qxxx x KQJxxxx.

S has to appreciate the opening bid by p along with the X by rho means the club K
is an overwhelming favorite to not be in lho hand. Once we realize this our hand is
now worth 7 tricks not too shabby for a passed hand. This leads me to wonder why
not

xx vs 2c?

This bid still leaves open the possibility of a heart fit (whereas the non forcing 2c bid once again threatens to bury a heart fit) and lets p know you are near top of your power range for a passed hand. We are prepared for anything N does (surely we dont fear 1s xx) and now we have a fighting chance to get to game. If the bidding continues as before after 2d p p (surely p would bid hearts if they had hearts and a weakish hand) I would bid 3d which should clarify just how good my
(obviously clubs) hand is and trust p judgement from there.

[benlessard]

AQJxxxx with a highly probable K to the right look like a very possible 7 tricks to me if partner got a doubleton clubs, so even if 2C seems normal i think its a mistake compared to XX followed by 3C. I dont remeber last time ive had a bad score because they played 1Nt xx making. So here im not afraid to XX without full values because i think the % that the bidding return at 3D is acceptable.

[the hog]

I would open the hand 3C and I would pass with the North hand.