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4 level WJO 1S-(4D)-x

Poll: How often do you pull to 4[he] here? (10 member(s) have cast votes)

How often do you pull to 4[he] here?

  1. all 5404 (1 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  2. all 5413 (3 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  3. all 5422 (6 votes [60.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

  4. all 5431 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. all 5440 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-July-15, 04:37

1♠-(4♦)-x-p

suppose you are not strong enough to make a slam try. your only two options are pass and 4♥. when would you pass with 5 spades and 4 hearts?
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Posted 2010-July-15, 04:48

Never. Maybe with AKJ or AKQ of diamonds.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 05:22

with 5440 I would, BTW gwnn you asked how often you pull or how often you pass? ;)

♦QJx would be also good enough to pass for me, ♦KQ maybe ♦Kx also
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Posted 2010-July-15, 05:24

I saw what you wrote initially but your secret is safe with me Fluff.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 05:44

hanp, on Jul 15 2010, 06:24 AM, said:

I saw what you wrote initially but your secret is safe with me Fluff.

meh its 6:45 in the morning give me a break you know what i meant ;)
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Posted 2010-July-15, 05:46

wow
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Posted 2010-July-15, 05:50

I don't understand passing with Kx of diamonds. Yay, we have the diamond king doubleton onside for them, I guess we should pass a takeout double! Seems like it could easily lead to them making 4D X with us cold for 4H.

I don't think passing with QJx is good either...maybe if the hand is exactly like A5432 A432 QJ2 2.

I guess the vulnerability and form of scoring makes some difference. 99 % of the time you should bid 4H if you have 4 of them imo.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 06:13

To pass with this shape I think you need both bad majors and good defence. ♦Kx in a minimum might mean that you have bad majors, but it won't be much use in defence.

The only 5422 I might pass is something like Axxxx xxxx KQ Ax, where I can be pretty sure of beating 4♦ and also wouldn't have great confidence about making 4♥.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-July-15, 07:20

so gnasher how often do you pass with 5-4-3-1?
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Posted 2010-July-15, 09:26

gwnn, on Jul 15 2010, 02:20 PM, said:

so gnasher how often do you pass with 5-4-3-1?

Probably no more often than with 5422. If you were to change my example to Axxxx xxxx KQx A, I'd pass, but I think that's close to a 4♥ bid.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-July-16, 16:30

I am pulling having slightest excuse. Almot all hands with 4♥ are good for me.
I am so easy to bluff and push around :(
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Posted 2010-July-16, 16:31

bluecalm, on Jul 16 2010, 05:30 PM, said:

I am so quick to pull my partner's takeout double with a fit for him and no stack in the opponent's suit :(

FYP! There is nothing wrong with this, it's normal!
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