[Little Kid]

Scoring: MP

Pass-(3♦)-All Pass

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Anyone to blame for NS getting a bottom?

[rogerclee]

If south doesn't open, his subsequent pass can hardly be faulted, and I think bidding 3S with the north hand is ridiculous. A good hand to be opening light. I'll note 4S isn't amazing, if clubs are 4-1 a very likely result is 3D down with 4S also down, despite north catching south with a nearly 100% working 11 count with 4 trumps.

[Little Kid]

Matchpoints are lame

[Bbradley62]

Little Kid, on Jul 22 2010, 08:05 PM, said:

Matchpoints are lame 

Is this a common view among yor age group? If so, it's nice to know I was ahead of my time in something

[Bbradley62]

Bbradley62, on Jul 22 2010, 08:16 PM, said:

Little Kid, on Jul 22 2010, 08:05 PM, said:

Matchpoints are lame 

Is this a common view among yor age group? If so, it's nice to know I was ahead of my time in something

Actually, more to the point, roughly what percentage of pairs games are MP vs XIMPs?

[kayin801]

I would open the south hand, but it's far from the worst pass I've ever seen. After he passes N/S are screwed.

[aguahombre]

They really have ten hearts?

[Little Kid]

Scoring: MP

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[shyams]

1. I suspect your side got a bottom not due to either North or South's inaction but due to East's pass. Did many E/Ws play in 4♥ -1?
2. Switch the ♠3 and ♣3 between the East and West hands and now 4♥ is cold but 4♠ is down.

[Simplicity]

shyams, on Jul 23 2010, 05:18 AM, said:

2. Switch the ♠3 and ♣3 between the East and West hands and now 4♥ is cold but 4♠ is down.

Um 4♠ is still cold and 4♥ is just the 1 off instead of 2.

Perhaps you meant the ♣5 and ♠7?

[OleBerg]

In my book South could double, and convert hearts to spades. Shouldn't show anything but 4-4 in black. (Considering South is a passed hand, and it is MP's.)

And North should have no reason whatsoever, to go to 4♠.

The texture of the hand and the vulnerabilety doesn't invite adventure though, so I am not sure I would have the balls for it, at the table.

[OleBerg]

Little Kid, on Jul 23 2010, 02:05 AM, said:

Matchpoints are lame

No. Just another game than IMP's. And with higher variance.

And in my opinion a much more difficult game. Or at least a game less mastered by the experts. Don't ask me which.

[cherdanno]

OleBerg?
I can understand making a passed-hand takeout double with a doubleton major, but not with a doubleton major AND three cards in their suit. And would you also suggest that North should pass if you had seen that the South hand has 4225 shape?

[OleBerg]

cherdanno, on Jul 23 2010, 03:09 PM, said:

OleBerg?
I can understand making a passed-hand takeout double with a doubleton major, but not with a doubleton major AND three cards in their suit. And would you also suggest that North should pass if you had seen that the South hand has 4225 shape?

First off, I didn't make it clear enough, that i wanted North to show restraint (3♠), not to gamble a pass. (Even though it isn't that unreasonable).

Three cards in their suit is bad too, which is one major reason, that I might not double at the table.

The other is, of course, the vulnerabilety. To be honest, I think I would only double at all white. If opponents were red, I'd simply hope to collect enough 200+'s in the long run.

At all white, I would double with 4-1-3-5, if the hand had the right texture.

If I should try and construct a 4-2-3-4 hand I would double with at this vulnerabilety, it would be something like:

♠ QJ109
♥ 32
♦ A109
♣ QJ109

[jdonn]

I believe south doubling as a ph then pulling 3♥ to 3♠ shows 5-4 in the black suits.

No blame here from me, this kind of thing happens on occasion when opponents bid a lot in a bad fit with a good fit on the side.

[MFA]

Fixed.

[Cyberyeti]

Interesting to think what would happen if 2♦ was opened, do you fancy 2♠ at this vul opposite a passed partner with an unpassed LHO..

No real blame to assign, and 4S is an excellent contract, as it's laydown any time the second seat preemptor has 7 of them even with 4-1 clubs or 3-1 spades most of the time.

I think I like the south hand enough to open it a 12-14 1N, but can't criticise a pass.

[junyi_zhu]

Little Kid, on Jul 22 2010, 11:57 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

Pass-(3♦)-All Pass

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Anyone to blame for NS getting a bottom?

gotta open the bidding with 11 HCP two aces and 4-4 in black suits.