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Pearson or pass?

Poll: Well? (34 member(s) have cast votes)

Well?

  1. Pearson be damned, I PASS (4 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  2. Rule of 15!!! 1 Diamond! (30 votes [88.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 88.24%

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#1 User is offline   dcohio 

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Posted 2010-February-28, 20:12

Scoring: MP

(p)-p-(p)-?

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Posted 2010-February-28, 20:19

And I am not passing a 1S response.
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Posted 2010-February-28, 21:31

1♦. What's so bad about this hand that you want to pass a probable + score? If you played a strong club system with 10-15 limited openers, or a 10-12 mini-NT there could be a case for pass...
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Posted 2010-February-28, 21:51

Obv open, why wouldn't you?
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Posted 2010-February-28, 21:53

Pearson be damned. I open because it's an opening hand.
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Posted 2010-February-28, 22:36

I was just checking that I wasn't insane.

I opened, opps bid and make 3H... pass goes for a top.
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Posted 2010-February-28, 22:39

dcohio, on Feb 28 2010, 11:36 PM, said:

I was just checking that I wasn't insane.

I opened, opps bid and make 3H... pass goes for a top.

:D Game of percentages obv.
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Posted 2010-February-28, 22:49

I would pass. This hand has an insufficient Casino count, (or Pearson count if you like).
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Posted 2010-February-28, 23:15

The_Hog, on Feb 28 2010, 11:49 PM, said:

I would pass. This hand has an insufficient Casino count, (or Pearson count if you like).

12 + 3 = 15? Looks like enough? And it even has good controls, ie no jacks.

How could this problem be here? Open your opening bids.
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Posted 2010-February-28, 23:23

jdonn, on Mar 1 2010, 12:15 PM, said:

The_Hog, on Feb 28 2010, 11:49 PM, said:

I would pass. This hand has an insufficient Casino count, (or Pearson count if you like).

12 + 3 = 15? Looks like enough? And it even has good controls, ie no jacks.

How could this problem be here? Open your opening bids.

Qx = 2?
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Posted 2010-February-28, 23:30

The_Hog, on Mar 1 2010, 12:23 AM, said:

jdonn, on Mar 1 2010, 12:15 PM, said:

The_Hog, on Feb 28 2010, 11:49 PM, said:

I would pass. This hand has an insufficient Casino count, (or Pearson count if you like).

12 + 3 = 15? Looks like enough? And it even has good controls, ie no jacks.

How could this problem be here? Open your opening bids.

Qx = 2?

If you are downgrading for that you are surely upgrading for the heart ten, the 5 card suit, and the great controls.

But anyway casino/pearson points (aka rule of 15) specifically mention high card points at any links I can find.
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Posted 2010-February-28, 23:33

+1 for opening.
OK
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Posted 2010-March-01, 02:07

I might pass if I had to open 1♦, but I would open a 12-14 1N. Can opps come in at the 2 level ? The reduced frequency of opps being able to act is significant here.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 02:14

Cyberyeti, on Mar 1 2010, 03:07 PM, said:

I might pass if I had to open 1♦, but I would open a 12-14 1N. Can opps come in at the 2 level ? The reduced frequency of opps being able to act is significant here.

Now we are talking.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 02:26

aguahombre, on Mar 1 2010, 02:19 AM, said:

And I am not passing a 1S response.

And I am passing 1S
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Posted 2010-March-01, 03:06

Hi,

the Rule of 15 is for marginal openers, you have 12HCP, AK in a suit,
why should this be a marginal opener?

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Posted 2010-March-01, 03:50

The Pearson points/ Rule of 15 is meant for borderline opening hands. This is not borderline: has adequate QT, adequate HCP, 5-card suit. Even if you thought this was borderline, it still fulfills Pearson requirements.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 03:52

I would open this hand in 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th seat... Pearson has nothing to do with this imo.
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Posted 2010-March-01, 03:59

poll option should be "bridge be damned, i PASS"
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Posted 2010-March-01, 04:04

effervesce, on Feb 28 2010, 07:31 PM, said:

1♦. What's so bad about this hand that you want to pass a probable + score? If you played a strong club system with 10-15 limited openers, or a 10-12 mini-NT there could be a case for pass...

exactly. I'd pass in my partnership where we play 10-15 limited openers and a 10-12 mini-nt unless I don't respect my opponents. I'd bid 1nt if that's 12-14 and 1♦ if I play a strong nt in pretty much all other systems and circumstances.
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