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#1 User is offline   ewj 

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Posted 2009-April-26, 17:28

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Auction goes 1♣ from north, 1♦ overcall and 1♠ from South (4+ cards).....North continues with 3♦ splinter and East doubles, passed back to North who redoubles to show a first round control.
South tries 3♥ and North 4♣, South continues with 4♥ and North goes past 4♠ with 5♣.
South finishes the auction with 6♠...What do you people think?
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Posted 2009-April-26, 17:41

doesn't look an awful slam?
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Posted 2009-April-26, 17:50

What strength did 3D show, GF? Or invitational?
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-April-26, 17:51

Been in worse slams.

I suppose 4♥ was some kind of last train, because South's 3♥ then 4♥ sounds to me like AK of hearts, not KQ. Anyway I would probably bid 4♠ over 4♣.
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Posted 2009-April-26, 17:53

hanp, on Apr 26 2009, 06:50 PM, said:

What strength did 3D show, GF? Or invitational?

"No agreement" :P
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Posted 2009-April-26, 18:06

Then I also think that south bid too much. North really has a very good hand, especially after south cues hearts twice. South has very soft cards and a void in what must be north's 6-card suit to the AK. That can't be good.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-April-26, 19:26

What did 3D double mean? "I got a D-overcall, partner, did you hear me?" Or promising also side A? Perhaps Lightner lead direct?
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Posted 2009-April-27, 01:57

Looks like an exuberant junior auction, but I think South should try to avoid the 4♥ bid. Or avoid the 3♥ bid. One or the other is sufficient with the club void.

Of course North may still go on. It needs very little for this to be a very good slam and it is tough to identify that.

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Posted 2009-April-27, 04:19

655321, on Apr 26 2009, 11:51 PM, said:

Been in worse slams.

Me too. And with much better bidding :) :) :)
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Posted 2009-April-27, 08:41

If South's pass of 3♦ denied a cuebid, then I understand the subsequent 3♥ and 4♥ calls. Otherwise, South overstated his heart values.

Not a terrible contract, but 4♠ would be far more comfortable. 6♠ will probably make anytime both black suits break (which includes QJ doubleton of clubs) or the ♥A is onside with reasonable black suit breaks.
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Posted 2009-April-27, 12:53

Depends on agreements... After 3♥, North skipped 3♠ and 3NT. What's your agreements on these calls?
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Posted 2009-April-27, 13:37

Part of it sounds good.

I think the XX should set the auction as clearly GF and slam-oriented. In that event, I think 3♥ is right, but that Opener swhould bid 3♠ to show two of the top three spades, but that's just my style. So, 4♣ might make sense for this partnership.

I see nothing wrong with the 4♥ call. KQ looks fairly good in the context of the sequence so far. The end of the auction also makes sense.
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Posted 2009-April-27, 13:40

Have I misunderstood the auction? Did South cuebid twice in ♥?
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Posted 2009-April-27, 13:53

EricK, on Apr 27 2009, 02:40 PM, said:

Have I misunderstood the auction? Did South cuebid twice in ♥?

Maybe.

4♥ might be LTTC, in which case the answer is no.

4♥ might be a card-showing double cue, in which case yes, but appropriately.

If 4♥ is a pure big boy cue, then errantly yes.

I don't think this auction calls for a big boy cue method here, though. If South has the wood in hearts, he bids more than simply 4♥, IMO.
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Posted 2009-April-28, 06:21

Should not this contract make? Crossruff ♦ and ♣ until ♣ good, then draw trumps, force ♥A and enjoy?
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Posted 2009-April-28, 06:50

petergreat, on Apr 28 2009, 01:21 PM, said:

Should not this contract make? Crossruff ♦ and ♣ until ♣ good, then draw trumps, force ♥A and enjoy?

Assuming a diamond lead, that will usually need trumps 2-2 as well as clubs 4-3. You can only cope with 3-1 trumps if ♣QJ come down in three rounds.
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