BBO Discussion Forums: Procedural Bonus - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

  • 3 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Procedural Bonus

#41 User is offline   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 12,618
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2009-February-24, 02:16

pretzalz, on Feb 23 2009, 08:33 PM, said:

On the first one, how many would you have made in a minor? Perhaps the director meant with his statement that you likely would have gotten too high in a minor even if you had avoided NT after the strong NT.

You cant make TD decisions like that.
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
"You need to play a lot of stuff these days just to deal with the stuff your opponents are playing" DBurn
0

#42 User is offline   Lanor Fow 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 191
  • Joined: 2007-May-19

Posted 2009-February-24, 07:55

I'm not sure I see why not Jillbean. Isn't the aim in a MI ruling to work out what might have happened without the MI and adjust accordingly if there is damage? If what woudl have happened is you would have got too high in a minor then there is no damage and no ajustment (i'm not claiming that to be necessarly the case here, and even if it was then it was extremely poorly explained).
0

#43 User is offline   1eyedjack 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,575
  • Joined: 2004-March-12
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK

Posted 2009-February-24, 09:57

blackshoe, on Feb 24 2009, 02:32 AM, said:

Joanne, you were sure you mentiond that there was more than one director involved in your three rulings. You didn't.

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...ndpost&p=347301

JoAnneM, on Feb 23 2009, 04:40 AM, said:

I am personal friends with the director called to the table and the other director who reviewed the hands

Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
0

#44 User is offline   jdaming 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 115
  • Joined: 2007-August-07

Posted 2009-February-24, 10:22

Sorry kindof change topics but it is my understanding that a "sandwich NT" does not need to be alerted in this situation:

P - 1♦ - P - 1♥
1NT*****

Since it is obv that it cannot be a strong nt (the pass). Is this wrong?
All IMO. Junior wanting to soak up all the knowledge he can.
0

#45 User is offline   MFA 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,625
  • Joined: 2006-October-04
  • Location:Denmark

Posted 2009-February-24, 10:36

jdaming, on Feb 24 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

Sorry kindof change topics but it is my understanding that a "sandwich NT" does not need to be alerted in this situation:

P - 1♦ - P - 1♥
1NT*****

Since it is obv that it cannot be a strong nt (the pass).  Is this wrong?

I should still be alerted.

But whether it is possible or not for an opponent to be damaged by a missing alert is a different matter :ph34r:.
Michael Askgaard
0

#46 User is offline   peachy 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,056
  • Joined: 2007-November-19
  • Location:Pacific Time

Posted 2009-February-24, 12:10

jdaming, on Feb 24 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

Sorry kindof change topics but it is my understanding that a "sandwich NT" does not need to be alerted in this situation:

P - 1♦ - P - 1♥
1NT*****

Since it is obv that it cannot be a strong nt (the pass). Is this wrong?

In ACBL, a passed-hand 1NT is not alertable.
If the sandwicher was not a passed hand, then Sandwich NT requires an alert.
0

#47 User is offline   JoAnneM 

  • LOR
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 852
  • Joined: 2003-December-04
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:California

Posted 2009-February-24, 18:34

The "sandwich nt" hand." The explanation was the alert - unrequested. Don't you love it when people just blurt it out.
Regards, Jo Anne
Practice Goodwill and Active Ethics
Director "Please"!
0

#48 User is offline   barmar 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 22,113
  • Joined: 2004-August-21
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2009-February-25, 23:24

JoAnneM, on Feb 24 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

The "sandwich nt" hand." The explanation was the alert - unrequested. Don't you love it when people just blurt it out.

Ever since announcements were created, I've encountered players announcing all sorts of things. Like Drury and Bergen, weak jump shifts, or weak jump raises in competition. They've gotten it into their heads that any relatively common conventions are announceable.
  • 3 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users