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#41 User is online   jillybean 

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Posted 2009-February-24, 02:16

pretzalz, on Feb 23 2009, 08:33 PM, said:

On the first one, how many would you have made in a minor? Perhaps the director meant with his statement that you likely would have gotten too high in a minor even if you had avoided NT after the strong NT.

You cant make TD decisions like that.
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Posted 2009-February-24, 07:55

I'm not sure I see why not Jillbean. Isn't the aim in a MI ruling to work out what might have happened without the MI and adjust accordingly if there is damage? If what woudl have happened is you would have got too high in a minor then there is no damage and no ajustment (i'm not claiming that to be necessarly the case here, and even if it was then it was extremely poorly explained).
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Posted 2009-February-24, 09:57

blackshoe, on Feb 24 2009, 02:32 AM, said:

Joanne, you were sure you mentiond that there was more than one director involved in your three rulings. You didn't.

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...ndpost&p=347301

JoAnneM, on Feb 23 2009, 04:40 AM, said:

I am personal friends with the director called to the table and the other director who reviewed the hands

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Posted 2009-February-24, 10:22

Sorry kindof change topics but it is my understanding that a "sandwich NT" does not need to be alerted in this situation:

P - 1♦ - P - 1♥
1NT*****

Since it is obv that it cannot be a strong nt (the pass). Is this wrong?
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Posted 2009-February-24, 10:36

jdaming, on Feb 24 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

Sorry kindof change topics but it is my understanding that a "sandwich NT" does not need to be alerted in this situation:

P - 1♦ - P - 1♥
1NT*****

Since it is obv that it cannot be a strong nt (the pass).  Is this wrong?

I should still be alerted.

But whether it is possible or not for an opponent to be damaged by a missing alert is a different matter :ph34r:.
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Posted 2009-February-24, 12:10

jdaming, on Feb 24 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

Sorry kindof change topics but it is my understanding that a "sandwich NT" does not need to be alerted in this situation:

P - 1♦ - P - 1♥
1NT*****

Since it is obv that it cannot be a strong nt (the pass). Is this wrong?

In ACBL, a passed-hand 1NT is not alertable.
If the sandwicher was not a passed hand, then Sandwich NT requires an alert.
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Posted 2009-February-24, 18:34

The "sandwich nt" hand." The explanation was the alert - unrequested. Don't you love it when people just blurt it out.
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Posted 2009-February-25, 23:24

JoAnneM, on Feb 24 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

The "sandwich nt" hand." The explanation was the alert - unrequested. Don't you love it when people just blurt it out.

Ever since announcements were created, I've encountered players announcing all sorts of things. Like Drury and Bergen, weak jump shifts, or weak jump raises in competition. They've gotten it into their heads that any relatively common conventions are announceable.
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