[jillybean]

Scoring: IMP

(P) ?

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[matmat]

1♠ for me.

[rbforster]

4 losers? I'm torn between 2♣, 1♠ and 4♠. Probably too good for 4♠ and partner might yell at me for 2♣ so I guess 1♠ it is.

[neilkaz]

1♠ and a BIG WTP

30 ZARs with no upgrades so surely you can't pass .. no rebid issues and the world doesn't have enuf drugs for 2♣

Those who preempt ..I, as usual ask, what are you preempting against ? and hope you miss a black suit slam, preferably a grand.

[rogerclee]

1♠, non-problem. I am not sure what is dumber, opening this 2♣ strong artificial or opening this 2♣ 11-15 with 6+♣.

[pclayton]

1S. Once in awhile I'll open hands like this 4S. Its not as sick as people make it out to be.

[jillybean]

Scoring: IMP

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so the bidding starts off:

(P) 1♠ (P) 2♦
(P) ?

[jillybean]

Scoring: IMP

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and now..

1♠:2♦
3♣:3♥

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean2, on Jun 10 2008, 12:51 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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and now..

1♠:2♦
3♣:3♥

4C.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[mike777]

jillybean2, on Jun 9 2008, 10:27 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

(P) ?

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1) one spade
2) plan on rebidding 2s..........over 90% not not 3c

[mike777]

jillybean2, on Jun 10 2008, 12:51 AM, said:

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and now..

1♠:2♦
3♣:3♥

object....rebid


2s

1)
Partner saw me open one spade....with pick up partners,no discussion I do not open on junk.

2) we are in game force..slow down ...down....
3) if partner thinks i open on random crap ok....problem.

[catatonic]

1 club , then rebid spades a few times ; imperative in my view for pt to understand that only black values are any good with my hand

if you open a spade and next hand bids 4 red and pt doubles , what then ?
open a club and rebid spades at whatever is required then pt has the picture

[han]

Definitely open 1S and rebid 3C. Then 4C, and then 4S if room. Rebidding 2S with this 6-6 hand is criminal.

If I open 1C and then bid spades a couple of times my partner will expect me to hold longer clubs then spades.

[Codo]

The old discussion what to do with spades and clubs again?

I really don't care much about the opening bid here, but I would bid 1 Club with my partner and 1 Spade with pick ups, because they don't know that I will do so with clubs as long as spades.

But I will rebid my second suit as long as possible, no way that we or they play NT or a red suit below the 5. level.

[ArcLight]

While this certainly has playing sterngth, why is 4♠ so terrible?
The opps may have a save in 4 or 5♥ or 5♦.
4♠ is likely to make. 6 spades/clubs requires a lot from pard.

I would bid 4♠ expecting to make.
This also prevents the opps from finding a save.
And they may have a slam too, though unlikely.


>Those who preempt ..I, as usual ask, what are you preempting against ? and hope you miss a black suit slam, preferably a grand.

Opps may have 9 or 10 cards in a red suit and bid it.

[the hog]

4S is not terrible at all. However I would open 1S and rebid 2S, not 3C as the hand lacks the high card strength for that.

[655321]

Open 1♠ then bid clubs.

I expected to see most posters take the normal action of opening 1♠ and rebidding clubs, with a handful of 4♠ openers as the only variation. Wrong again.

[joker_gib]

han, on Jun 10 2008, 11:38 AM, said:

Definitely open 1S and rebid 3C. Then 4C, and then 4S if room. Rebidding 2S with this 6-6 hand is criminal.

If I open 1C and then bid spades a couple of times my partner will expect me to hold longer clubs then spades.

Totally agree with this !