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Posted 2008-June-03, 19:49


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West North East South

 Pass  3♥    Pass  4♥
 Pass  Pass  Pass  

Thanks for the replies, here's the full hand we played 4♥+1
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Posted 2008-June-03, 20:53

should make 6
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Posted 2008-June-03, 21:01

jillybean2, on Jun 3 2008, 08:49 PM, said:

Thanks for the replies, here's the full hand we played 4♥+1

Seems like plus 2 should be the result....What was the defense?

Something like this wins 12 tricks (set up long spade)....
Say !D. win ACE
Spade ACE,
Lose Spade,
Ruff Diamond (save heart 2)
Heart to JACK ACE
Ruff spade with KING
heart to TEN (save heart 2)
Ruff spade -- setting up the 13th spade...

Win 1D, 7H, 2C, 2S....

As for the preemptive 3♥ bid, well... I think it is a 4♥/1♥ hand (imho), or a namyats if you play that. That is, it is a too strong for a not vulnerable 3♥ opening bid.
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Posted 2008-June-03, 21:28

4♥+1 is the worst conceivable end result. 3NT makes five easily. 4♥ makes six. 6♥ makes six...

Well, you beat 6NT people.

Actually, that's a tough one. Some 6NT people will make on a pseudo-squeeze. I have not looked at this enough, but there may be some way to actually bring in 6NT.

Any not-so-easy squeezie people out there?!?
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Posted 2008-June-03, 21:48

Probably they just finessed the diamond?
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Posted 2008-June-03, 22:17

Jlall, on Jun 3 2008, 07:48 PM, said:

Probably they just finessed the diamond?

Then its a 5 or 7 proposition with the spade lead. Otherwise it should still make 6.
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Posted 2008-June-03, 22:38


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 Pass  3♥    Pass  4♥
 Pass  Pass  Pass  

D9 DA DT D6
HA H8 H2 HJ
H3 H7 H9 D2
HK D4 HT D3
S7 S8 S2 S9
DK H4 D5 DQ
HQ D7 S3 DJ
H6 C3 S4 SJ
H5 ST C6 C4
S6 D8 SA SQ
CK CT C2 C5
C8 CJ CA C7
C9 CQ S5 SK


We played a 3rd round of trumps, some norths opened 4♥ and got to 6
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Posted 2008-June-04, 08:58

I would open North hand 1H. Not 3 nor 4.

you likely get a diam lead and i think it wise to take the finesse. If it wins you don't need spades breaking right for 6 and even have a chance to make 7 if spa behave.

If the diam finesse fails, then you win probable club return in hand. Cash HK ensuring 2-1 break. ♠A, ♦A pitching a spade, then ruff a spade high. ♥A, ruff another spade, ♥T, ruff 4th spade, ♣K, cash 5th spade for club discard. If diam finesse succeeds, play same way for 7.

I don't think this hand requires expert play ability. Just entry management and set up dummy's long suit.
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