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#1 User is offline   ArcLight 

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Posted 2008-May-24, 14:33

Imps, neither vuln, pard opens 1, RHO overcalls 1
you hold:
A x x
A Q x x
T 9 x x
x x

What do you bid?
X (negative DBL)
1NT
2NT
Other?


The bidding continues:

1 (1) 1NT 2
p   p   ?
Now what do you bid?
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Posted 2008-May-24, 17:39

Bid 1NT first and pass now.
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  Posted 2008-May-24, 17:47

1N is perfect. Now a double seems obvious.
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Posted 2008-May-24, 17:47

Agree with Ron, I'd bid 1NT and pass.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-May-24, 17:51

I'm with clayton, what else could a double say but maximum with good defense?
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Posted 2008-May-24, 18:57

jdonn, on May 25 2008, 06:51 AM, said:

I'm with clayton, what else could a double say but maximum with good defense?

Maybe a bit less in H and a bit more in S?
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Posted 2008-May-24, 19:06

Yeah I would like 2 spade tricks for the double. I do expect 2S to be set most of the time but I think the risk is too large. I've thought about running a simulation but it is too hard to specify what the 2S and 1H calls look like.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-May-24, 19:43

1N looks obvious - over 2S my first inclination was to double, but I think pass is the better call. There is no reason to believe we have a gross distortion of HCP and partner seems to have minimum values with no long, good suit. Partner might hold, Qx, xxx, KJx, AQxxx and 2S makes with an overtrick.

It also might go down 3. But there is no way to know so best action IMO is to dummy up and try to go plus.
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Posted 2008-May-24, 21:43

1NT and pass. Haven't we bid our hand? If partner has some shaky spade holding like Qxx isn't he likely to remove our X? We may not even have a fit.
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Posted 2008-May-24, 21:50

So just to combine the prior posts into why we should pass, is it because partner will make the disaster pass of our double with Qx of spades, or the the disaster pull of our double with Qxx of spades?
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Posted 2008-May-24, 21:58

jdonn, on May 24 2008, 10:50 PM, said:

So just to combine the prior posts into why we should pass, is it because partner will make the disaster pass of our double with Qx of spades, or the the disaster pull of our double with Qxx of spades?

IMO, Josh, the double may simply turn a plus into a minus. Even if partner has Qx, what contract are we playing for a plus score?
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Posted 2008-May-24, 22:59

1NT + dbl.

Dbl is a must at MPs. At imps also, unless I feel like chickening out and/or is pard has a flair for opening unsuitable 10-counts.
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Posted 2008-May-24, 23:32

definitely pass the second time.
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Posted 2008-May-25, 01:22

I play a double of 2 as takeout, with something like xx AQx Kxxx xxxx. A two-level "penalty" double when you can't have four trumps is actually a "your trumps are breaking" double.
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Posted 2008-May-25, 06:16

1NT first, then double.
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Posted 2008-May-25, 06:27

The is clearly a contextual 11-count, because the heart Queen is surely as good as the King.

This is surely a contextual 10-count, because the 4-3-3-3 shape means that the clear 11-count must be reduced by 1 HCP.

This is plainly a contextual 11-count because Aces, and Kings under Aces, are undervalued.

This is obviously a contextual 10-count, because all of the other finesses go toward probable strength.

Good thing 1NT here covers up to 10+/11-.

So, 1NT first time.

I'm not sure the second time. I seem to have a fairly good hand for partner, if he wants to defend or declare. So, I'll go aggressive and double.

Hold that -- just saw IMP. Pass.
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Posted 2008-May-25, 12:06

#1 1 NT, very heavy, the alternative being 2NT.
#2 Pass.

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Posted 2008-May-26, 10:34

1NT and double ; as I play I havent got 4spades ...would prefer x to 1NT if I had , got 4 diamonds if pt has that , doubleton clubs if pt has long clubs.....and am max suitability to defend if that is what deems correct
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