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I thought p could not have this hand but I buy Josh's argument. I still don't like 3♠ though, there is no guarantee that p has four spades.
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Posted 2008-May-26, 02:33
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Posted 2008-May-26, 04:02
han, on May 26 2008, 05:18 AM, said:
The Romanian partner had AK10x x xx AQJxxx, comments?
I think he should have bid 3♠ over 3♥, and I don't understand why he didn't.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-May-26, 08:04
jdonn, on May 26 2008, 05:34 AM, said:
I would have bid 3♠ at the end but I understand why he doubled.
IMO overcalling 1♠ is terrible. Passing is the only easy way of getting both suits in since you can next bid them in order, and this will probably play terribly in a 4-3 fit since you have to set up clubs to make tricks but you will be ruffing red suits in your hand the whole time.
IMO overcalling 1♠ is terrible. Passing is the only easy way of getting both suits in since you can next bid them in order, and this will probably play terribly in a 4-3 fit since you have to set up clubs to make tricks but you will be ruffing red suits in your hand the whole time.
Agree with this
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Posted 2008-May-26, 08:33
Jlall, on May 26 2008, 08:58 AM, said:
Does nobody else play 1C p 1H p 2H 2S= 4S longer clubs?
I do now.
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Posted 2008-May-26, 08:53
Hi all.
I was the Romanian partner
The main reason I doubled instead of bidding 3♠ was that partner might easily have something like xx KQxx Kxxxx xx, for instance, which could easily resolve in a +500 or +800. This was a Junior competition, after all.
Very good point about 2♠ on the second round, me and gwnn are playing that now.
I was the Romanian partner
The main reason I doubled instead of bidding 3♠ was that partner might easily have something like xx KQxx Kxxxx xx, for instance, which could easily resolve in a +500 or +800. This was a Junior competition, after all.
Very good point about 2♠ on the second round, me and gwnn are playing that now.
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Posted 2008-May-26, 09:16
I would just bid 3 D
pt can still have 3D
if he hasn't he can still bid 3S
like the 2S reasoning ; a gadget that makes sense and doesn't cost ; will buy that one
pt can still have 3D
if he hasn't he can still bid 3S
like the 2S reasoning ; a gadget that makes sense and doesn't cost ; will buy that one
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Posted 2008-May-26, 09:54
catatonic, on May 26 2008, 05:16 PM, said:
I would just bid 3 D
pt can still have 3D
if he hasn't he can still bid 3S
like the 2S reasoning ; a gadget that makes sense and doesn't cost ; will buy that one
pt can still have 3D
if he hasn't he can still bid 3S
like the 2S reasoning ; a gadget that makes sense and doesn't cost ; will buy that one
and when you get your partner barred from the auction, ?
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Posted 2008-May-26, 10:46
Easy pass for me. For the 3C partner should at least show a non-minimum hand and for the 2nd X he should have at least defensive tricks. He cannot be 4??6 or ??46 because he would have overcall 1D or 1S on round 1 or 2S/2nt on round 2.
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Posted 2008-May-26, 10:46
Jlall, on May 26 2008, 08:58 AM, said:
Does nobody else play 1C p 1H p 2H 2S= 4S longer clubs?
Wow I have never heard of it, and I love it. You rocked my world.
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Posted 2008-May-26, 10:49
jdonn, on May 26 2008, 11:46 AM, said:
Jlall, on May 26 2008, 08:58 AM, said:
Does nobody else play 1C p 1H p 2H 2S= 4S longer clubs?
Wow I have never heard of it, and I love it. You rocked my world.
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Posted 2008-May-26, 11:03
ah ; missed the 3!H
ok 4D
ok 4D
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Posted 2008-May-26, 12:57
I'm in the 4♦ camp here.
Agree that 3♠ on partner's actual hand is better than double, but I undestand why he doubled.
I've heard about 2♠ as Justin plays it, but don't think I've ever agreed to play it like that with any partner. Though I guess I would expect partner to have such a hand if this auction came up.
Agree that 3♠ on partner's actual hand is better than double, but I undestand why he doubled.
I've heard about 2♠ as Justin plays it, but don't think I've ever agreed to play it like that with any partner. Though I guess I would expect partner to have such a hand if this auction came up.
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Posted 2008-May-26, 14:05
Delayed canape makes sense, in some auctions.
I can imagine having a natural 2♠ call, myself, because my overcalls tend to be sound, in some auctions. I also would have vew instances of this because i can overcall 2♣ naturally. That said, I like this.
I also like this after a 1♦ opening.
I can imagine having a natural 2♠ call, myself, because my overcalls tend to be sound, in some auctions. I also would have vew instances of this because i can overcall 2♣ naturally. That said, I like this.
I also like this after a 1♦ opening.
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Posted 2008-May-26, 14:24
jdonn, on May 26 2008, 10:46 AM, said:
Jlall, on May 26 2008, 08:58 AM, said:
Does nobody else play 1C p 1H p 2H 2S= 4S longer clubs?
Wow I have never heard of it, and I love it. You rocked my world.
I think that would have been the consensus interpretation in a 1980's MBC.
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