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Bidding problem Meaning of responder's jump?

#1 User is offline   pholly 

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Posted 2008-February-18, 23:17

What do members think the meaning of responder's jump is in this sequence:

1S - 2C; 2H - 4D

I thought it cued diamonds agreeing hearts; partner thought it was a second suit. Thoughts anyone?
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Posted 2008-February-18, 23:19

splinter in support of hearts.

like a 2416 or so.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 23:23

Splinter, a typical hand could be Q10xx Kxx x AQJxx.

Edit: I thought the auction was 1H-2C-2H-4D. Still a splinter though, what Csaba said.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 23:28

Third the current vote. Splinter
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Posted 2008-February-18, 23:32

For me it must agree H, with the only issue being whether it is a splinter or a cue (and that depends on strength of 2-over-1, style of 4SF etc).

Since 3D is forcing (in fact 4sf), a jump should agree partner's last bid suit (and if you hold the massive 2-suiter in minors with slam ambition/force you just have to bid 4sf and then rebid 4D: at least 5-6 with slam interest...)

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Posted 2008-February-18, 23:37

Thanks all - appreciate the input
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Posted 2008-February-18, 23:51

gwnn, on Feb 19 2008, 12:19 AM, said:

splinter in support of hearts.

like a 2416 or so.

What Csaba said.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 02:12

Its a splinter for hearts for me.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 03:25

Cascade, on Feb 19 2008, 09:12 AM, said:

Its a splinter for hearts for me.

Me too.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 04:46

pholly, on Feb 19 2008, 05:17 AM, said:

What do members think the meaning of responder's jump is in this sequence:

1S - 2C; 2H - 4D

I thought it cued diamonds agreeing hearts; partner thought it was a second suit. Thoughts anyone?

This is, in my opinion, a rather muddy area of bidding. Without discussion I'd take it as splinter in support of hearts.. unless I happen to have a singleton diam or so, that is:)
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Posted 2008-February-19, 07:20

For me:

If 2 was not GF, a splinter in support of hearts.
If 2 was GF, a picture splinter in support of hearts.

The former is a general strength bid with a stiff.

The latter is more specialized, meaning no Ace or King of spades, two of the top three hearts, a stiff diamond, and three of the top four clubs. Something like xx KQxx x AQJxxx works.
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