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That nasty preempt How to bid this monster?

#1 User is offline   zasanya 

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Posted 2007-October-31, 08:00

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3♠-?

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Posted 2007-October-31, 08:05

Pard's expected 7-8 hcp would have to be magical for a slam to be on, so I'll just bid 4♥.

If you play that dbl + 4♥ shows just about this hand, by all means use that.
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Posted 2007-October-31, 08:05

X, followed by 4H or 5H over 4S.

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Posted 2007-October-31, 08:23

Agree with double followed by 4H. If partner jumps to 5m then we should have slam.

edit: I think we just agreed that double followed by 4H does not show a monster here, just a decent hand with hearts and at least one other place to play.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-31, 09:12

Dbl then 4♥ over 3NT or 4m, 4♠ over 4♥.
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Posted 2007-October-31, 09:22

Gotta start with X and see what happens.
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Posted 2007-October-31, 10:03

X followed by 4♥ but unfortunately, as Han says, it doesn't quite reveal this hand. I'm not going to force to the 5-level.

What about inverted non-leaping Michaels? 4♣ is a ♥ one-suiter, 4♥ shows hearts and clubs :)
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Posted 2007-October-31, 10:26

helene_t, on Oct 31 2007, 04:03 PM, said:

What about inverted non-leaping Michaels? 4♣ is a ♥ one-suiter, 4♥ shows hearts and clubs :)

Prefer full-rotation-non-leaping-michaels

4♣ = hearts
4♦ = hearts/minor, strong
4♥ = hearts/minor, weaker
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Posted 2007-October-31, 11:09

Jlall, on Oct 31 2007, 10:22 AM, said:

Gotta start with X and see what happens.

Yep..just too much potential here to bid only 4♥, but what are you doing when LHO raises to 4♠ and PD passes ?

Are you bidding 5♥ or doubling 4♠ at this vul ? If you dbl again, how well do you trust PD to make the proper decision ?

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Posted 2007-October-31, 11:38

jdonn, on Oct 31 2007, 04:12 PM, said:

Dbl then 4♥ over 3NT or 4m, 4♠ over 4♥.

Fine with me.
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Posted 2007-October-31, 11:38

start with x
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Posted 2007-October-31, 14:11

Double then 4H.

Afterward, I'll explain that it doesnt actually show a flexible hand but rather a hand too good for a direct 4H.
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Posted 2007-October-31, 15:04

Double caters to many things (including a pass) and is most flexible, showing a good hand versus a 4♥ hand. If pard finds a 5m call, then we're almost golden.
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Posted 2007-October-31, 15:22

With gullible opps and/or a forgiving director, announce a skip bid and then bid 4♥, to show a strong one-suited hand. Otherwise double first.





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