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What is the correct play here? count, preference or just do it yourself

Poll: What card do you play? (15 member(s) have cast votes)

What card do you play?

  1. 4 (hopefully discouraging) (8 votes [53.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.33%

  2. 5 (hopefully even) (1 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  3. 6 (hopefully even) (4 votes [26.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.67%

  4. Ace (say what next) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. other (2 votes [13.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.33%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2007-July-21, 16:14

Scoring: MP

S - W- N - E
1-1-X -3
X -ps-ps-ps


PArtner leads teh kind of diamonds
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Posted 2007-July-21, 16:47

did partner lead the king of diamonds?

i think i'll go for the 6-hopefully even thingie. but i give count too often.
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Posted 2007-July-22, 01:07

I would discourage.
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Posted 2007-July-22, 02:07

I'd play the 4, which normally is encouraging in my methods.
A thinking partner would see that it's got to be suit preference for 's on this occasion, nothing else make sense IMO.
And partner would then switch to a low holding Kx and a high holding singleton K (attitude).
If partner switches to a high I'll win the king and return the T, suit preference for 's.
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Posted 2007-July-22, 05:02

skaeran, on Jul 22 2007, 03:07 AM, said:

I'd play the 4, which normally is encouraging in my methods.
A thinking partner would see that it's got to be suit preference for 's on this occasion, nothing else make sense IMO.
And partner would then switch to a low holding Kx and a high holding singleton K (attitude).
If partner switches to a high I'll win the king and return the T, suit preference for 's.

Ditto this, but add in one thought.

I'll trust partner to make correct carding plays. However, I ain't trusting 100%. As a redundancy, I'll win that high club with the club Ace, just to be extra cautious.
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Posted 2007-July-22, 11:18

kenrexford, on Jul 22 2007, 01:02 PM, said:

skaeran, on Jul 22 2007, 03:07 AM, said:

I'd play the 4, which normally is encouraging in my methods.
A thinking partner would see that it's got to be suit preference for 's on this occasion, nothing else make sense IMO.
And partner would then switch to a low holding Kx and a high holding singleton K (attitude).
If partner switches to a high I'll win the king and return the T, suit preference for 's.

Ditto this, but add in one thought.

I'll trust partner to make correct carding plays. However, I ain't trusting 100%. As a redundancy, I'll win that high club with the club Ace, just to be extra cautious.

Well, I thought I'd win with the ace, but I'll not let partner in the total dark.
Then again, I'm used to playing with awake partners who trust my suit preferences.
Playing with a total unknown I might have won the ace too. :P
Kind regards,
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Posted 2007-July-22, 11:54

Six

I show count here and partner will know I could have played a higher card, if it matters.
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Posted 2007-July-22, 12:37

For those wishing to give even count with a hi-lo, how can the 8 not be the right card?
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Posted 2007-July-22, 17:14

TimG, on Jul 22 2007, 01:37 PM, said:

For those wishing to give even count with a hi-lo, how can the 8 not be the right card?

Not necessary - think about it. In this particular case you have the luxury of showing count and suit preference.
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Posted 2007-July-23, 06:10

I dont like diamonds, if West started with a singlton why help him set them up by encouraging P to lead another. P has shown interest in the round tops, and you have help there.
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Posted 2007-July-23, 07:07

I play the 8 in an attempt to get partner to switch to a heart before it is too late.

The 10 is too dangerous, and no other card is likely to get the message across.
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Posted 2007-July-24, 15:19

Discourage what else ?

Why would you want to play count in a situation like this, just doesnt make any sense ?

From partner point of view a continuation or a shift is possible.

playing standard signal.


low switch clubs.

middle or weird card. switch


If you have problems with this hand i strongly suggest you to go grabs some defense books
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